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Ricardo -> RE: Buleria de Jerez, half-compas stops. (Feb. 6 2013 12:46:46)
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ORIGINAL: por medio
Hi again all. Picking up the guitar again and getting back with the local cantaor after almost two years of hiatus.
She wants to try Buleria de Jerez. I'm going through Youtube and listening a whole lot and practicing accompanying. But the major issue that I'm having is how at times the singer finishes in "half compas" (is remate the correct terminology?). This is quite difficult to follow especially if I'm trying to follow it for the first time.
I guess the question is, what kind of tips would you give me to really get a good hang of this? Just keep listening and practicing more until I get used to the cante and it's patterns? I've been looking into lots of Canelita clips and gosh he's good.
And in the real world the guitarist and singer actually work out beforehand when they would do half-compas? My understanding is not and the singer just does whatever he feels like and it's upto the guitarist. But surely at times they must go,
"when I sing Ai ai ai after this letra let's finish at 6".
Thanks again in advance.
In the case of buleria it's not really about the singer or the dancer even, it's about the GUITARIST. tHat means you either play a half compas, or you square it off...it's up to YOU.
Now, that being said there is a time and place more appropriate than not for it, it depend how well you understand how the chords fit to the melody, but it is in no way wrong to square things off all the time. The nice thing about half compas is the opposite thing...you can cut things in half as you feel like, and in almost all cases you do that because it feels comfortable to do so. If it is NOT comfortable then you have learned compas wrong to begin with and that goes back to me going on and on and on and on and on that when learning bulerias (and other palos) you should NOT COUNT...as it may force your internal phrasing to be bound eternally to square compases such that any half compas encounters are "strange" to you. THat's no good....the very first time you learn basic buleria it should be understood the see saw effect of the symmetric 6's phrasing such that groups of 6's are interchangeable, disposable, repeatable, or superimposable at any time during buleria, and one need never to count or think about it much.
THe first place to look at deliberately forcing half compas is the LAST line of verse for any letra. IN most cases the feeling of the singing starts from 12 (or specifically the contra beat between 11, 12) with the last line of verse. THe guitarst here has the option to make it feel like the singing had started between 5,6 instead by the way you close to the A chord. (por medio). You either close on 4 (half compas) OR you close on 6 with A, filling up the other half with rasgueado. Pretty simple, and despite what anybody might tell you I swear on my eyes its all YOU.
If you do a half compas there, then the singer may take the extra 6 to repeat the 2nd and 3rd lines of verse...OR they may not care and start in the middle of the compas with the repeated verse in which case you would probably do best with ANOTHER half compas (C7-F) to best match the melody that is shifted. But in my experience singers tend to wait a full compas based on YOU having cut.
Now this is a starting place...of course there will be other times you can choose to cut or extend depending on the timing of the singer, but I promise no matter what happens there can almost always be a way to either square things out or cut in half.
I am gonna make a vid example later today because this issue was asked before and I do find important, and just felt it would not have been understood back when cante accomp. thread was hot. You can practice what I describe with many of the cante examples we had...just keep in mind the singer is NOT reacting to you with pre recorded tracks so it won't be exactly the same, but at least a starting point for practicing alone at home.
(EDIT... I make it sound like to square things you always have to round up with rasgueado...not always the case as sometimes where you would WANT to do a rasgueado answer it WOULD be an extra 6...in those cases, with no thought involved you simply dont' to rasgueado and continue from 12 normal compas strumming in that sense "squaring it off" again).
Ricardo
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