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kikkoman -> RE: Girl on bulerías toque (Feb. 5 2013 23:51:41)

i don't believe that

there are plenty of young female violinists who are quite capable

when i taught a group of very beginner violinists there was a general lack of proficiency with all of them regardless of gender and progression was pretty much dictated by amount of time used for practicing



estebanana -> RE: Girl on bulerías toque (Feb. 6 2013 2:14:02)

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In the context of guitar women do have to push a bit harder because, not to be snaggy, they really do have to negotiate the pervasiveness of male guitar culture.


A former teacher of mine (himself a professional classical guitarist) once told me beginning female students were at a slight disadvantage because it took a little longer (i.e. 3-6 months) for the muscles in their hands to develop to the point where they could become proficient beginner players. Does anyone know if there's any truth to that (i.e. evidence to support that claim)?


I was not talking about physical strength, but of fortitude of will in the midst of a bunch of dudes saying things exactly like this "Girls can't do it because they are not as strong."



estebanana -> RE: Girl on bulerías toque (Feb. 6 2013 2:16:50)

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when i taught a group of very beginner violinists there was a general lack of proficiency with all of them regardless of gender and progression was pretty much dictated by amount of time used for practicing


Yes, I know teachers who teach kid cellists and they never say anything about difference in gender strength as a factor in being a student.



Ricardo -> RE: Girl on bulerías toque (Feb. 6 2013 13:38:27)

For sure girls can do just as well as boys...so long as they are willing to give up some social life practicing and play with BALLS!!! [:D]



n85ae -> RE: Girl on bulerías toque (Feb. 6 2013 15:31:53)

Pathetic thread.

She's a fine guitar player, but this thread ONLY lives because she's a girl.

It exemplifies how the word cretin came to be part of the language.



Leñador -> RE: Girl on bulerías toque (Feb. 6 2013 15:43:29)

rrreeowww **cat fighting sound**
[:D]



horationelson -> RE: Girl on bulerías toque (Feb. 6 2013 17:36:38)

Nirish -good guitar player, thats all



kudo -> RE: Girl on bulerías toque (Feb. 6 2013 17:42:43)

here is a friend of mine, she is playing por bulerias on guitar



machopicasso -> RE: Girl on bulerías toque (Feb. 7 2013 8:08:09)

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I was not talking about physical strength, but of fortitude of will in the midst of a bunch of dudes saying things exactly like this "Girls can't do it because they are not as strong."


Yes, I know. But if what my earlier teacher said was true (i.e. that female beginning students are at a physical disadvantage), then that would help clarify at least one of the obstacles some/most/all beginning female guitarists face. My earlier teacher cited this physiological issue to explain why his beginning female students quit more frequently than his male students.

Again, I don't know if the physiological explanation is true. I was just raising the point for consideration.



machopicasso -> RE: Girl on bulerías toque (Feb. 7 2013 8:09:27)

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Pathetic thread.


Hey, some of us are trying to make it constructive...[&:]



brandoscostumes -> RE: Girl on bulerías toque (Feb. 7 2013 13:34:13)

not super impressive even for a girl..the only interesting discussion is the physical/fast twitch muscle fiber aspect, like why there are so many female classical virtuosos yet i have never seen a girl fire off a scale of either the paco or grisha style technique



Ricardo -> RE: Girl on bulerías toque (Feb. 7 2013 14:17:40)

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ORIGINAL: brandoscostumes

not super impressive even for a girl..the only interesting discussion is the physical/fast twitch muscle fiber aspect, like why there are so many female classical virtuosos yet i have never seen a girl fire off a scale of either the paco or grisha style technique



Perhaps you haven't heard but playing scales is ONLY related to macho male ego posturing.



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