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estebanana -> RE: How does the business of selling flamenco guitars work? (Feb. 7 2013 19:50:05)

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1. Stephen, I'm glad to hear that you're alive!


Rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated.



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kintla -> RE: How does the business of selling flamenco guitars work? (Feb. 8 2013 1:08:29)

Well this will sound odd to some, but so far, somehow, has worked well for me, ie, ordering a guitar on consignment, and never having played a guitar from the luthiers. The first example is rather long and convoluted, and involved a near three year wait, for guitar #87. The second a much shorter wait, less than a year, from a luthier whose guitar was #24. Luthiers in general, at least the ones I have dealt with have always been fair and upfront. But I've always been willing to take a risk or two, so no doubt there are some horror stories out there. There is a lot that a person can learn about a luthier without ever having met them or their guitars, just by access to the internet. I'm at the point now where if I found a guitar that I really wanted, I probably would have to sell one to justify it. I know this doesn't answer the question posed by Britguy, really you just kind of have to take a risk sometimes, or maybe not.



mlau -> RE: How does the business of selling flamenco guitars work? (Feb. 10 2013 1:59:04)

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he second a much shorter wait, less than a year, from a luthier whose guitar was #24. Luthiers in general, at least the ones I have dealt with have always been fair and upfront. But I've always been willing to take a risk or two, so no doubt there are some horror stories out there. There is a lot that a person can learn about a luthier without ever having met them or their guitars, just by access to the internet. I'm at the point now where if I found a guitar that I really wanted, I probably would have to sell one to justify it. I know this doesn't answer the question posed by Britguy, really you just kind of have to take a risk sometimes, or maybe not.


Kintla, thanks for the advice.

I will have to add that I'm not a stranger to great guitars and luthiers.
If I'm spending serious $$$$ or $$$$$ on a guitar, I'd insist on an audience with the luthier prior to commission.

As it is, I'm quasi-apprenticing under the guy I'll commission a guitar from. I'd like him to have more business.

-Matt

Ps. my guitars are far better than I warrant as a guitarist.



mlau -> RE: How does the business of selling flamenco guitars work? (Feb. 10 2013 2:08:27)

Britguy:

For classicals:
1. Usually, buyers will go to a trusted broker (Bob at Guitar Solo, Armin, etc).
2. Otherwise, they choose what the guitar instructor chooses.
3. Lastly, some fly to the shop to try it. There was a kid from Colorado that flew to SF to try a 2003 Byers.

Tom:
1. Good to head from you! I have your Reyes plan. Would you recommend it for a first negra? Any special tips? The MIMFers have also recommended the Santos Hernandez plans as well.
2. My maestro (the guy I'm looking into the business stuff for) is actually very, very well regarded in the classical world. Jorge Caballero plays his guitars (I hope that I didn't give away his identity).

I've been learning a lot of business stuff myself.
If he doesn't want my advice, I may try marketing my own work!
However, I'm stubbornly committed to staying a hobbyist guitar builder.
Also, I'd hate to overshadow my maestro. :p



Tom Blackshear -> RE: How does the business of selling flamenco guitars work? (Feb. 10 2013 3:14:34)

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ORIGINAL: mlau

Tom:
1. Good to head from you! I have your Reyes plan. Would you recommend it for a first negra? Any special tips? The MIMFers have also recommended the Santos Hernandez plans as well.
2. My maestro (the guy I'm looking into the business stuff for) is actually very, very well regarded in the classical world. Jorge Caballero plays his guitars (I hope that I didn't give away his identity).

I've been learning a lot of business stuff myself.


If he doesn't want my advice, I may try marketing my own work!
However, I'm stubbornly committed to staying a hobbyist guitar builder.
Also, I'd hate to overshadow my maestro. :p


There is no reason you can't mention your friend's name if you wish to.

And the Reyes plan is good for any builder who would like to try it. Just pay close attention to the fan brace shapes, sizes, and tapers.

The top can be about 2 to 2.1 mm even thickness with a slight taper around the outside edges in the lower bout, if preferred.

And the playing scale is marked in blue line but with the bridge moved back about 1 mm, as it will pull forward about 1 mm under string tension. Actually, I glue the bridge exactly where it is marked on the plan and then glue the finger-board to compensate.

And I built the top flat with a little rounding in back of the bridge, side to side, not up and down the top.



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