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tk -> 1970 Conde Hermanos Negra for sale on ebay - Sold (Jan. 17 2013 0:08:57)

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tele -> RE: 1970 Conde Hermanos Negra for sale on ebay (Jan. 17 2013 11:29:36)

It's a really nice guitar and I wonder why it hasn't been sold yet. Seems like the economic crisis is affecting guitarists too.



tk -> [Deleted] (Jan. 18 2013 0:03:24)

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tele -> RE: 1970 Conde Hermanos Negra for sale on ebay (Jan. 18 2013 11:44:18)

Selling a guitar like that will always be regretted when there's more money in your pocket. I know it. I mean if you are a guitarist for life.



Ricardo -> RE: 1970 Conde Hermanos Negra for sale on ebay (Jan. 18 2013 16:04:07)

Some people have a bs prejudice against cedar tops for flamenco. Although the top LOOKS like cedar, you might be able to sell if you just omit that from the description. I have a great negra already and prefer blancas. I would love to compare it to mine, but not in the market. I will tell students but honestly the economy is the main issue these days.

just out of curiosity..before you sell it, can you get look at the brace pattern? You can just shine a light inside in a dark room. My 73 sobrinos has this same parallel line bracing like modern condes. But an older 60's blanca had the fan out barbero style pattern. Just curious how they did the negras in 1970.

Ricardo



tk -> RE: 1970 Conde Hermanos Negra for sale on ebay (Jan. 18 2013 17:14:04)

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Some people have a bs prejudice against cedar tops for flamenco. Although the top LOOKS like cedar, you might be able to sell if you just omit that from the description. I have a great negra already and prefer blancas. I would love to compare it to mine, but not in the market. I will tell students but honestly the economy is the main issue these days.


Very good point. But if you think about, some of the most famous flamenco guitarists, play cedar top guitars:

Paco Pena => Cedar Gerundino
Sanlucar => Cedar Negra
Vicente Amigo, In his most recent Youtube video posted yesterday plays a cedar negra "Graciliano Perez"
Serranito ==> Cedar Ramirez

Most recently, Paco bought this guitar from GSI. There is a picture of him with the guitar, who knows....

http://www.guitarsalon.com/p4016-pepe-romero.html

I am sure there are others as well.

Agreed. the economy is not good as you say.



tk -> RE: 1970 Conde Hermanos Negra for sale on ebay (Jan. 18 2013 17:15:48)

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just out of curiosity..before you sell it, can you get look at the brace pattern? You can just shine a light inside in a dark room. My 73 sobrinos has this same parallel line bracing like modern condes. But an older 60's blanca had the fan out barbero style pattern. Just curious how they did the negras in 1970.


Never done it before, but will try and share the info.

TK



bursche -> RE: 1970 Conde Hermanos Negra for sale on ebay (Jan. 18 2013 21:03:52)

Ha I even know of a Conde with no fan at all. It has the bar that is next to the soundhole installed with an angle of ~ 15° and then two more massive bars like this between the position of the first bar and the end of the corpus with a distance of one hand width between them so they crossed the bridge. Weird pattern but the guitar sounds amazing.



Dave K -> RE: 1970 Conde Hermanos Negra for sale on ebay (Jan. 19 2013 15:30:22)

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..before you sell it, can you get look at the brace pattern? You can just shine a light inside in a dark room



Cedar is usually not translucent enough for this to work very well.

Cheers,
Dave



KMMI77 -> RE: 1970 Conde Hermanos Negra for sale on ebay (Jan. 19 2013 21:16:25)

I notice this Conde has the same rosette as my conde blanca. It must be my guitars older sister. If only i could reunite them[:(]

If you can't get a decent price for it, keep it Tk. Things will pick up again eventually. Make a bit of extra money some other way.



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