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tele -> brazilian rosewood fretboard? (Dec. 31 2012 13:24:04)

Has this been used on flamenco guitars? It's highly sought after in electric guitars tonewise and I suppose it would sound better than ebony?




tri7/5 -> RE: brazilian rosewood fretboard? (Dec. 31 2012 15:08:53)

It's not better, it's all subjective. Brazilian is sought after because of its looks, that's why you see guys use it for bodies in the classical/flamenco world. You'd be hard pressed to tell it apart from indian rosewood in terms of tone or even a palo escrito. I'm sure you could make a fretboard out of it but you might lose a little snap/attack in the notes as it's a warmer sounding wood (hence why it's used in electric guitars).




tele -> RE: brazilian rosewood fretboard? (Dec. 31 2012 20:07:06)

So I've heard about the difference but what I've read there is a difference in the treble response as a side/back wood. But I wonder is it somehow less good for fretboard than ebony. That is there some reason why people don't use it.




Jeff Highland -> RE: brazilian rosewood fretboard? (Dec. 31 2012 20:22:09)

I have it on a couple of vintage Gibson electrics.
I have no comment on the effect on sound quality but I do think some of the current demand for it on electrics is
-because it was used on the '58 les paul etc
-because it is expensive and therefore must be the best.

However using it for a fretboard these days may be setting you up for problems crossing borders




Anders Eliasson -> RE: brazilian rosewood fretboard? (Jan. 1 2013 8:39:58)

Using Braz rosewood for whatever is asking for trouble these days.

Just as Jeff said, borders are there and guitars travel a lot nowadays.

Besides, let the poor Braz rosewood trees and the place where they live in peace. We can make very nice guitars with other species.




keith -> RE: brazilian rosewood fretboard? (Jan. 1 2013 9:19:56)

i have heard of classical guitars with carbon fiber/epoxy fretboards but have not heard of flamenco guitars with the same. would a such a fretboard work well with flamenco guitars?




Anders Eliasson -> RE: brazilian rosewood fretboard? (Jan. 2 2013 13:53:34)

I cant see why not, but I cant see myself working with it.




Ricardo -> RE: brazilian rosewood fretboard? (Jan. 2 2013 20:15:31)

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ORIGINAL: tele

So I've heard about the difference but what I've read there is a difference in the treble response as a side/back wood. But I wonder is it somehow less good for fretboard than ebony. That is there some reason why people don't use it.


In Ramirez book he describes how he loves working with it but it was prone to cracking much easier than INdian rosewood. I would think the cracking issue is the whole point of using ebony for the fingerboard as it's the hardest wood there is.




jshelton5040 -> RE: brazilian rosewood fretboard? (Jan. 2 2013 20:31:06)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricardo

I would think the cracking issue is the whole point of using ebony for the fingerboard as it's the hardest wood there is.

It is neither the hardest wood nor particularly stable or resistant to cracking. We age ebony longer than any other wood before using it to insure stability. Lignum Vitae is much harder although it's usuitable for fingerboards since it is very resinous and butt ugly.




estebanana -> RE: brazilian rosewood fretboard? (Jan. 2 2013 20:36:51)

Osage Orange, Persimmon and a half dozen other woods will make great finger boards, but it's mainly buyers who want the same, same old stuff. Eventually it will run out and guitars will be made with recycled milk cartons.




Jeff Highland -> RE: brazilian rosewood fretboard? (Jan. 2 2013 21:19:13)

CF Martin are using Richilite (wood pulp/resin) on their lower end models.
Greg Smallman is apparently using a Carbon fibre/epoxy fretboard.
My preference at the moment is Australian desert timbers.




constructordeguitarras -> RE: brazilian rosewood fretboard? (Jan. 5 2013 20:40:08)

I think the main reason for using ebony for fingerboards is tradition. I have noticed that some cheap violin-family instruments use black-dyed maple. Personally, I think the natural oiliness of BR would make it a good fingerboard wood. I doubt that a difference in tonal effect could be detected.




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