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ZvonkoM -> Hi from WI (Dec. 5 2012 22:22:49)

Hi guys!

My name is Zvonko, I am a solid guitar player - some classical, steel string (Tommy Emmanuel's style), electric, but my dream always was to learn to play Flamenco. So, here I am, the day has come. :)

First thing is, of course, to get a nice flamenco guitar. As far as I could see on the forum, a Navarro would be a good choice but I am open to suggestions. I would really appreciate your advice. If anyone is selling please let me know.

I don't want to spend too much since I will most likely upgrade once I get more experience with Flamenco. Also, I want a negra since I like warmer sound and will play classical music on the same instrument. I also plan to use it for recording and smaller gigs.

I would also like to hear if anyone has experience with a flamenco guitar with cutaway and pickup (preferably Fishman piezo/mic)? Is it worth the trouble? Anyone owns a guitar with similar setup and good sound?



Leñador -> RE: Hi from WI (Dec. 5 2012 23:19:58)

Hola and welcome to the Foro!

Those were things that I wanted when I first started flamenco because I came loosely from the same guitar school you did. Believe me you will not be happy with the outcome, a year in I was pissed at myself for spending $700 on a guitar I now consider worthless. The only way your getting a good cutaway that is flamenco is to shell out big bucks. If you're looking to play real flamenco the cutaway is somewhat unnecessary, especially as a beginner to the genre. Piezo's don't get the best wrap either if you do some searching around the forum.

If you're looking to just play "spanishy" sounding stuff then more power to you, get an electrified cutaway and shred your heart out but if you want to play authentic flamenco pick up a nice student Navarro or something similar. The reality is no matter how good you are at those other styles you've been playing you're not going to be gigging authentic flamenco any time soon.

Not being negative just relating my experience in the hopes to help others avoid the same mistake.

Best of luck on your path [:D]



Andy Culpepper -> RE: Hi from WI (Dec. 5 2012 23:29:20)

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I would also like to hear if anyone has experience with a flamenco guitar with cutaway and pickup (preferably Fishman piezo/mic)? Is it worth the trouble? Anyone owns a guitar with similar setup and good sound?


Hi Zvonko,
Welcome to the Foro.
I built a cutaway negra with the Fishman piezo/mic system this summer for the guitarist Mir Ali. He absolutely loved the guitar, and it did sound really great acoustic and plugged in.
I don't know if my guitars are in your price range or not but you can get more info here (and see photos of that guitar at the bottom of the page):
http://andyculpepper.com/Guitars.html

If you really want to play plugged in and you're going to play a lot of rumbas and that type of thing the cutaway/pickup combination is great. Also you can get a really wide range of tones through blending the pickup and the mic.
But overall I personally still prefer to build and play a traditional bodied flamenco guitar and use a good mic for recording and gigs.

Good luck!



ZvonkoM -> RE: Hi from WI (Dec. 6 2012 2:36:57)

Thanks guys! Nice to be in such a good company! :)

I supposed that cutaway & pickup are not the best thing, but it's free to ask... I will stick to the traditional shape and mic then. Which mic you'd recommend?

Andy, I saw your web site and videos, great work! The negra looks awesome, but a little above what I am planning to spend at the moment.



Doitsujin -> RE: Hi from WI (Dec. 6 2012 7:11:36)

what is wi?



XXX -> RE: Hi from WI (Dec. 6 2012 8:14:21)

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ORIGINAL: Doitsujin

what is wi?


Wigwam.



Escribano -> RE: Hi from WI (Dec. 6 2012 10:06:43)

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what is wi?


Wisconsin or the West Indies [:D]



ZvonkoM -> RE: Hi from WI (Dec. 6 2012 13:33:30)

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ORIGINAL: Escribano
Wisconsin or the West Indies [:D]


Haha, I wish it was West Indies... [:D]


It's Wisconsin, USA.



Leñador -> RE: Hi from WI (Dec. 6 2012 14:24:41)

Hey ZvonkoM

Here's the discussion had when I posted about amplification.

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=215197&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=electrify&tmode=&smode=&s=#

I hear you guys have great Oktoberfests.



HolyEvil -> RE: Hi from WI (Dec. 6 2012 18:16:33)

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ORIGINAL: ZvonkoM

Thanks guys! Nice to be in such a good company! :)

I supposed that cutaway & pickup are not the best thing, but it's free to ask... I will stick to the traditional shape and mic then. Which mic you'd recommend?

Andy, I saw your web site and videos, great work! The negra looks awesome, but a little above what I am planning to spend at the moment.


welcome mate.. I have to say, get a cutaway if you like. but usually for a cutaway, we need to get a luthier made ones for it to sound good.. I like cutaways..



ZvonkoM -> RE: Hi from WI (Dec. 7 2012 2:58:11)

Thanks everyone!

I am definitely looking for a hand made guitar, but something in the middle - not low end, not high end. Still browsing around, some nice people already contacted me to help.

How about Navarro Concert and Grand Concert? What is the difference between the two?

Where Andy's guitars stand compared to those?
Andy, your answer doesn't count... :)

Other builders in the US? I suppose Mexican are a bit cheaper because of the cost of labor, but I want good instrument. Not necessarily cheaper.

Thanks again for your help! You guys rock.. I mean - you guys flamenco. ;)



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