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turnermoran -> Action-responsiveness question (Nov. 27 2012 19:33:08)

Hello - luthiers. I few weeks ago I played a flamenco guitar with very low action. It sounded nice, but was a bit buzzy.
Weeks later, I thought about buying it, but asked the seller to raise the action. He raised it basically to "classical action". i'd say he brought it up 1 - 2cm from where it was.

Strangely, the guitar felt less powerful and responsive. Less volume even.

Is this possible or is it my memory playing tricks?



constructordeguitarras -> RE: Action-responsiveness question (Nov. 30 2012 3:48:48)

It's usually the other way around: Low action means you can't play as hard so you get less sound.



Jeff Highland -> RE: Action-responsiveness question (Nov. 30 2012 5:32:47)

Perhaps the strings were older the second time you tried it, if they have been loosened and tightened a few times during action adjustment the basses could have lost their brilliance



krichards -> RE: Action-responsiveness question (Nov. 30 2012 6:09:37)

To bring the action up he must have made a new saddle. It may not fit like the previous one, so the sound and response could easily be different.
I find that the saddle is a crucial element in the response of a guitar



Anders Eliasson -> RE: Action-responsiveness question (Nov. 30 2012 6:10:40)

2 possibilities:

1) Your memory

2) Bringing up the action 1 - 2cm is absurd. Did you mean 1 - 2mm?
If it was 1 - 2cm, the the breakangle would be so steep that it would tilt the bridge so much that the guitar would "choke" and not sound well



turnermoran -> RE: Action-responsiveness question (Nov. 30 2012 6:19:19)

Sorry everyone: it was more like .5 cm. ... maybe .75.

I think it was memory, and the fact that I brought a comparison guitar this time.

And yes, perhaps the strings were older.

Here's a question though: Does the onset of humid conditions take the life out of a guitar just a bit?

When I played the guitar, it was a dry summer. Not it's rainy season, and it was a foggy day at that.

I've noticed lately that my guitars don't seem to have much punch..but maybe it's me. Or the strings, etc etc
But do guitars absorb water and become less responsive??



ralexander -> RE: Action-responsiveness question (Nov. 30 2012 12:21:53)

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Here's a question though: Does the onset of humid conditions take the life out of a guitar just a bit?

When I played the guitar, it was a dry summer. Not it's rainy season, and it was a foggy day at that.

I've noticed lately that my guitars don't seem to have much punch..but maybe it's me. Or the strings, etc etc
But do guitars absorb water and become less responsive??


In my experience, yes. My guitars have always sounded best at around 30-60% RH. I've definitely noticed them sounding more restrained in higher humidity. I try to control humidity inside the case, and my heat pump does a good job of keeping humidity low in the summer.



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