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TANúñez -> Fret end bevel (Nov. 22 2012 23:55:48)

What degree of bevel do you all put on your fret ends?



Andy Culpepper -> RE: Fret end bevel (Nov. 23 2012 0:20:38)

360
(round [:D])



constructordeguitarras -> RE: Fret end bevel (Nov. 23 2012 3:07:43)

I use a 35-degree angle via an older version of this tool from Stew-Mac: http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Fretting_supplies/Shaping_and_crowning/Fret_Beveling_File.html?actn=100101&xst=3&xsr=57235



Blair Russell -> RE: Fret end bevel (Nov. 23 2012 7:36:26)

I used to do around 40 degrees with a hand file but recently bought that stewmac thing that Ethan uses. It seems expensive but it really does quicken the process to a matter of minutes.



TANúñez -> RE: Fret end bevel (Nov. 24 2012 0:54:22)

I know this degree varies from maker to maker. Just wanted to see what you guys use. I use 35 degree as well.



Andy Culpepper -> RE: Fret end bevel (Nov. 24 2012 16:40:55)

I spend a little extra time and a couple of different tools to get the ends rounded, because I don't want those sharp corners sticking out ever. I might get a tiny bit more playing surface too but it's pretty negligible.



estebanana -> RE: Fret end bevel (Nov. 24 2012 22:48:31)

Save yourself 80.00 bucks and just super glue a file to block of Spanish Cedar. I have two of them that are ten years old, I don't plan on replacing them anytime soon. One reason for that is because I hardly ever need to use them. I just grab a file and do it by eye.

There's a funny article by Frank Ford where he shows how to do frets and he has some jiggy thing made up, but he takes the file and does it by eye.

35 is good, but if you want maximize the amount of playable board, you can go shallower. That is why I don't use the file jig all the time. On refrets or even my guitars I don't always want that much angle. Sometimes a shallower angle means there is a slight bit more board to slide the string around from side to side without danger of going over the fret. On refrets you can't count on the guy before you having set up the board with enough width to allow 35 degrees. You have to give it what it asks for.

Once you make a steady pass or two with the file it sets the path angle. The thing that is difficult about fret ends is getting them snag free and smooth to the fingers.



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TANúñez -> RE: Fret end bevel (Nov. 25 2012 0:40:32)

I actually had a homemade one but during our move into the new home it was misplaced and still missing. I'm sure it'll turn up eventually but may need something before it turns up.



estebanana -> RE: Fret end bevel (Nov. 25 2012 2:14:11)

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I'm sure it'll turn up eventually but may need something before it turns up.


Gotta 10" flat mill bastard?

( I was not calling you a bastard, just that the cut of the file is bastard grade. Are we smooth on this?)



jshelton5040 -> RE: Fret end bevel (Nov. 25 2012 14:47:48)

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ORIGINAL: estebanana

quote:

I'm sure it'll turn up eventually but may need something before it turns up.


Gotta 10" flat mill bastard?

( I was not calling you a bastard, just that the cut of the file is bastard grade. Are we smooth on this?)

reminds me of an old joke. "looks like you need one of these half round bastards"...."no, I think I'll take one of those flat Mothxxfucxxxs over there".

Like Stephen, I've been making the fret bevels by eye for over 40 years with no complaints. I haven't the faintest idea what the angle is.



Jeff Highland -> RE: Fret end bevel (Nov. 25 2012 21:36:56)

I just run the edge along the disc sander, flat first then tilted
But then I fret before glueing on the board.
The big thing for comfort for me is that I undercut the fret tangs, same as if I were doing a bound board.



jshelton5040 -> RE: Fret end bevel (Nov. 25 2012 22:14:25)

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Highland

But then I fret before glueing on the board.


I know this is common practice for factory guitars and steel strings but I don't think I've ever glued on a fingerboard that came out absolutely straight with no leveling required. How do you do that?



Jeff Highland -> RE: Fret end bevel (Nov. 25 2012 22:45:47)

I use a straight caul full length of the board.
It has strips glued along the side that rests on the frets which contact on the outer border of the board,
The board is located onto the neck with plastic pins through first and last frets before fretting



estebanana -> RE: Fret end bevel (Nov. 25 2012 22:48:00)

quote:

I use a straight caul full length of the board.
It has strips glued along the side that rests on the frets which contact on the outer border of the board,
The board is located onto the neck with plastic pins through first and last frets before fretting


You mean training wheels? [:D][:D][:D]



Jeff Highland -> RE: Fret end bevel (Nov. 25 2012 22:56:15)

I guess you could calll it that
I don't like things to be glued in the wrong position...



TANúñez -> RE: Fret end bevel (Nov. 25 2012 23:03:23)

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( I was not calling you a bastard, just that the cut of the file is bastard grade. Are we smooth on this?)


Yes we are. Although it wouldn't be the first time I've been called a bastard and certainly won't be the last.



TANúñez -> RE: Fret end bevel (Nov. 25 2012 23:04:32)

quote:

reminds me of an old joke. "looks like you need one of these half round bastards"...."no, I think I'll take one of those flat Mothxxfucxxxs over there".


That was funny.



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