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attila57 -> RE: Juan Serrano Rasqueado Misconception (Nov. 4 2012 19:32:16)
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Hi Ramon,
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Next, on a different thread about continuous rasgueado the OP said he could not do Juan Martin’s XAMIXAMI continuous rasgueado, but had no trouble doing Serrano’s IXAMIXAM. This makes no sense, because there is no difference whatsoever between the two when done as continuous rasgueado. They merely start on a different finger. And to learn either one it is a good idea to practice starting with different fingers
That was me, but I've only said that the good way to learn EAMIEAMI (Juan Martín's type) is to actually start with IEAMIEAM (Juan Serrano's type). It's difficult to start learning it as EAMI because one just wants to stress the final I- stroke. If you put the I-stroke to the front it becomes easy.
I agree that Juan Serrano almost exceptionally uses the IEAM pattern, his 'signature'. In a way, he's a genius, because he invented a different approach to rasgueo and made it easy to learn the continuous roll.
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With two consecutive measures he would use IXAMI if there was an accent on the first beat of the second measure of the two. There are numerous videos of him on YouTube, and you will never see him play any other rasgueado
I also agree with you that Juan Serrano almost only uses his rasgueo the way you noted. It's always a quarter note divided to sixteenth. I call his usage a 'rhythmic usage'.
I think, if you just used this type and no other, it would become quite boring soon.
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Finally, there is a vast difference in the way Juan Martin executes that all down continuous rasgueado and the way Juan Serrano executes his. I have rarely heard this discussed, but the fact is that the effect is very different. Juan Serrano’s is a separated rasgueado, with each stroke distinct from the others, whereas Juan Martin’s is what could best be described as a continuous ROLL
I think, the main difference between Juan Martín's style, and Serrano's style (in terms of rasgueos) is that Juan Martín uses a great number of different kinds of rasgueos. His continuous roll is smoother (as you say), and it is because Juan Serrano flicks his strokes during the roll in a rhythmic way. He always wants to put the right amount of, say, sixteenths in a longer note, whereas JM apparently, doesn't really care. You can try the continuous roll yourself in two different ways. The first: building up tension in your palm before strokes, the second: without tension. The effect is just what you've noticed. JM apparently does his without tension.
I've posted out a lot of stuff in the other string, because I'm actually very interested in this topic, and JM's style, too.
Attila
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