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tri7/5 -> RE: Why Did Carolos Montoya Give his 1951 Marcelo Barbero to Sabicas? (Nov. 8 2012 21:13:16)

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ORIGINAL: z6

I've never tried a Smallman lattice but, from what I can gather, it doesn't seem appropriate at all for a flamenco. Those things seem more like pianos than guitars (alhough the design looks somewhat like the aforementioned banjo), but John Williams is crazy for them.


John Williams is a robot, plays completely expressionless and cold, thus why he likes Smallmans [:D]

...I always thought his old Fleta sounded best.




z6 -> RE: Why Did Carolos Montoya Give his 1951 Marcelo Barbero to Sabicas? (Nov. 8 2012 21:26:04)

Lenador, there's tons of info on the web on them. I don't want to chime too loud cause there are guys here who really know what they're talking about.

But, for me, the Nomex design is truly beautiful. It looks indistinguishable from a normal guitar, indeed the Nomex appears to function as an 'invisible force' allowing the builder to get the top down to a millimeter without compromising on the qualities that the wood actually supplies to the guitar. (I get that these are my interpretations of what are supposed to be the 'advantages' of Nomex. Plenty of people disagree and build great guitars to prove it.)

But, like I said, the thing I like best about my guitar is the feel. The Nomex must contribute to that but I can't help thinking that it is the feel of a guitar that makes the guitar, regardless of the sound.

I have no idea how to deconstruct what I mean by feel. I've played huge necks that play easy and low action that's hard... too many things make each guitar unique. I got all the way through music college without even being aware there was such a thing as a scale length that someone defined. I just played them and good felt good and vice versa.

Luthery is all voodoo anyway. I just get a kick out of knowing this advanced material used in aircraft and super high-end hi-fi speakers is hidden in the top of my guitar.




eg.czerny -> RE: Why Did Carolos Montoya Give his 1951 Marcelo Barbero to Sabicas? (Nov. 8 2012 21:35:56)

La Zambra has been mentioned a few times on this post. Is this the same club that had Fernando Sirvent as the house guitarist and who put out an LP called La Zambra?
I loved that record. Got me hooked on flamenco. I keep looking for a replacement for it. Mine is in very bad shape.




Richard Jernigan -> RE: Why Did Carolos Montoya Give his 1951 Marcelo Barbero to Sabicas? (Nov. 9 2012 7:07:50)

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ORIGINAL: eg.czerny

La Zambra has been mentioned a few times on this post. Is this the same club that had Fernando Sirvent as the house guitarist and who put out an LP called La Zambra?
I loved that record. Got me hooked on flamenco. I keep looking for a replacement for it. Mine is in very bad shape.


Yes, it's the same club that was started by Vucente Gomez. In the early 1960s when I hung out there, Fernando was the house guitarist. Fernando had a sister, Amor Sirvent who had a Spanish gift shop and flamenco dance studio in Washington DC near Dupont Circle.

The club Zambra was on 52nd street where a lot of other New York City music venues were.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/52nd_Street_(Manhattan)

RNJ




Ricardo -> RE: Why Did Carolos Montoya Give his 1951 Marcelo Barbero to Sabicas? (Nov. 9 2012 18:33:37)

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ORIGINAL: Dyingsea

quote:

ORIGINAL: z6

I've never tried a Smallman lattice but, from what I can gather, it doesn't seem appropriate at all for a flamenco. Those things seem more like pianos than guitars (alhough the design looks somewhat like the aforementioned banjo), but John Williams is crazy for them.


John Williams is a robot, plays completely expressionless and cold, thus why he likes Smallmans [:D]



Wrong. [8|]




tburke -> RE: Why Did Carolos Montoya Give his 1951 Marcelo Barbero to Sabicas? (Nov. 9 2012 20:09:15)

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ORIGINAL: Ricardo

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ORIGINAL: Dyingsea

quote:

ORIGINAL: z6

I've never tried a Smallman lattice but, from what I can gather, it doesn't seem appropriate at all for a flamenco. Those things seem more like pianos than guitars (alhough the design looks somewhat like the aforementioned banjo), but John Williams is crazy for them.


John Williams is a robot, plays completely expressionless and cold, thus why he likes Smallmans [:D]



Wrong. [8|]


I think Williams just expresses himself when he plays and he is not dramatic or highly emotional or one for the grandiose gesture (my impression) so why would his playing reflect that, he just expresses himself, as opposed to the false over dramatizing or romanticizing of things which some classical guitarists love to do.




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