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Quick Simple Survey to Determine Total Amount of Flamenco Guitarists in the world


I have or had Juan Martins El Arte de la Guitarra Flamenca
  41% (12)
I dont have or ever had Juan Martins El Arte de la Guitarra Flamen
  10% (3)
My copy of Juan martin's El Arte de la Guitarra Flamenca is scanned
  20% (6)
A friend borrowed Juan Martins El Arte de la Guitarra Flamenca
  0% (0)
I have friends who play flamenco who dont have this book
  3% (1)
I am not here at this forum so I cant vote
  17% (5)
My mom has this book in her library but purely for the story
  6% (2)


Total Votes : 29
(last vote on : Jun. 20 2013 23:00:41) 


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Florian -> Quick Simple Survey to Determine Total Amount of Flamenco Guitarists in the world (Aug. 22 2012 22:27:44)

this will help me make the most accurate and closest estimation of total amount of flamenco guitarists in the world....its too genius and complicated to try and explain how..just trust me

help science !!




XXX -> RE: Quick Simple Survey to Determine Total Amount of Flamenco Guitarists in the world (Aug. 22 2012 23:31:21)

Who or what is Juan Martin? Never heard of him.




xirdneH_imiJ -> RE: Quick Simple Survey to Determine Total Amount of Flamenco Guitarists in the world (Aug. 22 2012 23:32:40)

[:D]




ChiyoDad -> RE: Quick Simple Survey to Determine Total Amount of Flamenco Guitarists in the world (Aug. 22 2012 23:54:19)

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ORIGINAL: Deniz

Who or what is Juan Martin? Never heard of him.



Aqui!!




HolyEvil -> RE: Quick Simple Survey to Determine Total Amount of Flamenco Guitarists in the world (Aug. 23 2012 0:00:12)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Deniz

Who or what is Juan Martin? Never heard of him.


you should.. better than Paco De Lucia.




BarkellWH -> RE: Quick Simple Survey to Determine Total Amount of Flamenco Guitarists in the world (Aug. 23 2012 0:08:35)

Judging from the number of YouTube hits of every flamenco video posted, from Sabicas and Paco Cepero to those posted by members of the Foro, and using an obscure algorythm, there are precisely 8,583 flamenco guitarists in the entire world. The majority have never studied under Juan Martin.

Cheers,

Bill




Gummy -> RE: Quick Simple Survey to Determine Total Amount of Flamenco Guitarists in the world (Aug. 23 2012 12:02:15)

You could add an answer like " I used his books and videos to learn and they were really helpful, but now that I think I know about flamenco, I pretend to hate his stuff..."[:D]




Florian -> RE: Quick Simple Survey to Determine Total Amount of Flamenco Guitarists in the world (Aug. 23 2012 18:48:18)

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" I used his books and videos to learn and they were really helpful, but now that I think I know about flamenco, I pretend to hate his stuff..."


oh no here we go [:)] another Juan Martin fanatic who thinks i am having a go at juan[:D]

I am not...I cant help it if you are the one that just sees his name written down and title of his book and straight away assumes its a joke on him....hm ? hm ? hmmm [:)]

btw. i had the first vote and it was "I have or had Juan Martins El Arte de la Guitarra Flamenca"






as far as the study ..is going exactly as i predicted

50/50 between those that have it and those that dont

my prediction of total flamenco guitarists in the world is the total amount of copies of "Juan Martins El Arte de la Guitarra Flamenca" x 1 for the other half who dont have it...so...if this studies comes up 50/50 i am accurate (freaking genius)...now i just need the exact total copies sold around the world...so....whos got Juan's number ?




Ricardo -> RE: Quick Simple Survey to Determine Total Amount of Flamenco Guitarists in the world (Aug. 23 2012 20:57:45)

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"Juan Martins El Arte de la Guitarra Flamenca" x 1 for the other half who dont have it


you imply by x1 that the other half actually play flamenco and those w this book can't? or you meant x2? Grisha for one claimed he started with it. [;)] Someone else that plays well on here also can't remember who.




Florian -> RE: Quick Simple Survey to Determine Total Amount of Flamenco Guitarists in the world (Aug. 23 2012 21:00:26)

stop confusing me man [;)]


half of the people that do flamenco have or at one point had this book and judging by my calculation around the same amount that play flamenco dont have it...so if you add em all up u get the closest total amount of flamenco guitar players in the world...........err i think.......wheres my notes


i cant think of a more common flamenco thing that anyone in the world might have to tie us all up together...world wide....and then theres the equal amount of the people who dont

here in stores u cant find any Paco de Lucia flamenco albums but u can find this book




Ricardo -> RE: Quick Simple Survey to Determine Total Amount of Flamenco Guitarists in the world (Aug. 23 2012 21:10:05)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Florian

stop confusing me man [;)]


half of the people that do flamenco have or at one point had this book and judging by my calculation around the same amount that play flamenco dont have it...so if you add em all up u get the total amount....err i think...wheres my notes


Oh ok. Well, anything x1 is the same number you started with don't forget. So you need to multiply the number of people that have or had the book by 2x by your logic. I would personally think that more than half the people that have the book or got rid of it never got anywhere. I think Doitsujin already did the math on this came to 99% can't play flamenco that try? [;)]




Florian -> RE: Quick Simple Survey to Determine Total Amount of Flamenco Guitarists in the world (Aug. 23 2012 21:12:28)

quote:

Well, anything x1 is the same number you started with don't forget


oh damn...yes of course !! were off to a good start [:)]


quote:

I would personally think that more than half the people that have the book or got rid of it never got anywhere


ok but we dont know the total amount yet so its hard to determine what half of it or 65% of it is...so if i can get the total amount of people who have it first and multiply it by 2 and subtract 35% should give me the exact total number......right ?[8|]




Ricardo -> RE: Quick Simple Survey to Determine Total Amount of Flamenco Guitarists in the world (Aug. 23 2012 21:33:21)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Florian

quote:

Well, anything x1 is the same number you started with don't forget


oh damn...yes of course !! were off to a good start [:)]


quote:

I would personally think that more than half the people that have the book or got rid of it never got anywhere


ok but we dont know the total amount yet so its hard to determine what half of it or 65% of it is...so if i can get the total amount of people who have it first and multiply it by 2 and subtract 35% should give me the exact total number......right ?[8|]

times pi
3.14 backwards is PI.E [:D]




felipe -> RE: Quick Simple Survey to Determine Total Amount of Flamenco Guitarists in the world (Aug. 23 2012 21:42:35)

I had it scanned. It helped me to start (it was very difficult to find whatever about flamenco when I started to play). But I would not reccomend it to nobody to learn from.




Florian -> RE: Quick Simple Survey to Determine Total Amount of Flamenco Guitarists in the world (Aug. 23 2012 21:45:11)

quote:

But I would not reccomend it to nobody to learn from.


fair enough...

I found it useful enough at the start, nicely arranged all the traditional palos with the characteristic falsetas and riffs for palos but arranged for a beginner, a nice order of techniques and its slow introduction into pieces, cd, the material is not that bad for a beginner and the book is nicely planned out...theres plenty worst ones like "Teach yourself flamenco guitar"




LeƱador -> RE: Quick Simple Survey to Determine Total Amount of Flamenco Guitarists in the world (Aug. 23 2012 22:08:47)

IMO I think that book in conjunction with a teacher is a good combination for developing a solid base.




Sr. Martins -> RE: Quick Simple Survey to Determine Total Amount of Flamenco Guitarists in the world (Aug. 23 2012 23:02:24)

True flamencos don't have internet access [:D]




beno -> RE: Quick Simple Survey to Determine Total Amount of Flamenco Guitarists in the world (Aug. 24 2012 10:45:32)

quote:

True flamencos don't have internet access


[:D][:D][:D]




edguerin -> RE: Quick Simple Survey to Determine Total Amount of Flamenco Guitarists in the world (Aug. 24 2012 11:21:32)

quote:

True flamencos don't have internet access

And how many of those don't speak English?

This actually boils down to Fa=Fie*X
Where Fa = AllFlamencos
Fie = EnglishspeakingFlamencoswithInternet
Given all of them are on the foro and answer the poll we can then assume Fie=2*JM
Therefore Fa=2*JM*X
So we need a reasonable approximation for X, which of course is the inverse of Fie/Fa.

Suggestions??? [:D][:D]




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