Jim Kirby -> RE: flamenco vs nuevo flamenco (Aug. 13 2012 0:02:07)
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ORIGINAL: qzack Can you guys mention the differences beetween flamenco and nuevo flamenco? Oh yeah another question My friend ask me whether Paul Gilbert's Flamingo is Flamenco or not I can tell that its not "the actual flamenco" since it doesn't have any compas but I don't think I have any other details to make them sure What's your opinion guys? Thanks :) Simply put, it has to fall with in the frame of the proper song form to be called flamenco music. To equate what you will understand, think of the blues. It is a clearly defined song form, though it can be faster or slower, different types of swing, etc, but very distinct from say "BLUESY ROCK" or bluesy jazz. you can have the same chords and same scale, but if it is not literally the same 12 bar structure it simply is NOT THE BLUES. No respectable rock or jazz guitarist would confuse what they do with a proper blues guitarist, and often make the distinction. But for sure some dumb kids do a bend on the pentatonic scale and say "look at me, I am playing the blues now!!!!!". In flamenco music we have more than one type of form, but similar idea, and if you break the rules of the structure, it is not flamenco any more. We don't have a term like "Flamenco-y" like when we call some rock "bluesy", but you can get the idea from the word "spanishy" which may use similar chords and scales, but not the proper form as flamenco. Hope that clears it without getting into specifics. About big dogs and jealousy....don't forget Paco de Lucia had to call out on Ottmar back in the 90's when he got constantly pestered about the "new flamenco guy Ottmar Leibert"....so the "fakemenco" label was an inevitablity after the genre took off and perpetuated the confusion. What, you don't like 16 bar blues? Not sure what my point was going to be, but one thing I have a sense of is that there are examples of music that are clearly flamenco influenced and yet not true flamenco that amount to being really good music, alongside things that probably would be advertised as being true flamenco that are (to me) purely complete drek. But that is so much tied up in the skills of the musicians and what they are able (or not) to convey, and of course, for the imposters, their ability to appeal to a general audience.
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