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rombsix -> Lebanese pop music - where are we going to? (Jun. 13 2012 21:43:26)

This woman makes such a pop song:



This is the reply she gets:



And this is my reply:




mottallica -> RE: Lebanese pop music - where are we going to? (Jun. 15 2012 16:56:39)

has nasralla made a furious comment yet?



Ron.M -> RE: Lebanese pop music - where are we going to? (Jun. 15 2012 20:08:32)

quote:

This woman makes such a pop song:


One day that's gonna be some stupid bugger's WIFE!

Watched the whole video of the standup guy. Bloody GREAT! [:D]
It's great to see the late 60's return again 'cos that's exactly the way it was back then.
Young people were just sick of being told what to do, what to like, how to behave, crummy music and the crummy old-man authoritarian politics that was going nowhere.
The young folk of America, UK and Europe were never closer united as back then and nobody cared about money except for living day to day.
So they just tuned in and dropped out and didn't give anymore.

Pirate radio stations and underground papers and mags made the whole thing go viral.
Young folk just dropped out and backpacked over half the world starting out with only $50 (and a beat up van if you were lucky). Europe on $5 a day.
Great time for music too. The whole F'ing system just collapsed. The old brigade couldn't keep it together. Was like trying to gather frogs in a bucket for them and they couldn't cope with it.
No more Ra Ra Vietnam. No more respecting the flag and political leaders just because you have to. No more getting to 18 and wearing a suit like a mini version of your Dad. No more only rich children are intelligent or have talent and can go to University. Water cannon in the streets of Paris. Kinks on the radio. The Who bustin' up clubs..The Electric Kool Aid Acid Test, Steal This Book, Easy Rider and Woodstock.....

Thanks for the post Ramzi!

cheers,

Ron



rombsix -> RE: Lebanese pop music - where are we going to? (Jun. 16 2012 0:41:28)

Motallica - he's too busy watching the Euro 2012.

Ron - glad you enjoyed this.

I'm getting so much hate about the cover / tutorial I did of the song. People are not realizing I did so in jest...



KMMI77 -> RE: Lebanese pop music - where are we going to? (Jun. 16 2012 1:20:25)

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I'm getting so much hate about the cover / tutorial I did of the song. People are not realizing I did so in jest...


Re record the video but this time stand up and dance while you play it. [:D] Really get into it, It will get more views



Ron.M -> RE: Lebanese pop music - where are we going to? (Jun. 16 2012 6:32:07)

Hey Ramzi,

How come when you guys write Arabic in western style alphabet you use numbers too. Why 3antar?

cheers,

Ron



rombsix -> RE: Lebanese pop music - where are we going to? (Jun. 16 2012 9:24:08)

Yeah Kris, I should do that. [:D]

Ron - the numbers represent letters / sounds found in Arabic which cannot be represented accurately in Latin / English alphabet. It's just a form of "internet chatting Arabic" and is nothing formal. Some people call it Franco Arabic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_chat_alphabet



XXX -> RE: Lebanese pop music - where are we going to? (Jun. 16 2012 9:56:11)

Evolution has officially failed.



Ron.M -> RE: Lebanese pop music - where are we going to? (Jun. 16 2012 10:34:23)

Thanks Ramzi!

I had a laugh at some of the comments on the original Myriam Klink video....

"I wish I could unlisten to this" [:D]

"someone shove that pussycat down her throat" [:D]

cheers,

Ron



rombsix -> RE: Lebanese pop music - where are we going to? (Jun. 16 2012 11:18:55)

Cheers, Ron! [:D]



Sr. Martins -> RE: Lebanese pop music - where are we going to? (Jun. 16 2012 12:52:07)

Im on a laptop but to me it sounds like Fm instead of F.



mottallica -> RE: Lebanese pop music - where are we going to? (Jun. 16 2012 13:08:42)

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Motallica - he's too busy watching the Euro 2012.


[:D] [:D][:D]
i wish i had time to do that - too busy working and missing all the games [:@]



rombsix -> RE: Lebanese pop music - where are we going to? (Jun. 16 2012 14:07:47)

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Im on a laptop but to me it sounds like Fm instead of F.


I tried both, but my ear preferred the F major chord considering what was being sung. In either case, I've just come to accept that nothing in this world is absolute, and no matter what one does, someone else will come and say they preferred things another way. So I'll summarize by saying - maybe it should be an F minor chord, and maybe not, but either way - the song is not something I'm ever going to be playing again in my entire life (nshallah), so I'm not really worried. And you being from Portugal - Eu não falo Português. Eu falo a linguagem do amor. (Is that right? [:D] - something I was told could be used with gals in a humorous way)

Motallica - some games are going all the way to midnight - are you THAT busy? [:)]



xirdneH_imiJ -> RE: Lebanese pop music - where are we going to? (Jun. 16 2012 14:12:36)

hahaha, play more romantic songs then!



mottallica -> RE: Lebanese pop music - where are we going to? (Jun. 16 2012 15:47:09)

iv'e been working evening shifts - i get home at 00:30 :(
next week is morning shifts again :D



rombsix -> RE: Lebanese pop music - where are we going to? (Jun. 16 2012 16:47:41)

Good, you'll get to see the more exciting knock-out round then. I'm going to be doing night shifts at the ER soon, from 6:00 PM to 4:00 AM. Funnnnnn! [8D]



mottallica -> RE: Lebanese pop music - where are we going to? (Jun. 16 2012 23:24:02)

say , in Lebanon it's also 7 years of suicidal studding to be a doctor?



kudo -> RE: Lebanese pop music - where are we going to? (Jun. 17 2012 2:35:15)

ramzi- i hate your guitar video for her, please remove it



rombsix -> RE: Lebanese pop music - where are we going to? (Jun. 17 2012 9:15:54)

Yes, 7 years.

I unlisted the video...



mottallica -> RE: Lebanese pop music - where are we going to? (Jun. 17 2012 21:02:47)

cool , i was also thinking about learning medicine , but i'm still not sure if to go for it or just go for the sure case option of just studding electric engineering - both fascinate me



Ron.M -> RE: Lebanese pop music - where are we going to? (Jun. 18 2012 0:51:45)

Study Robotics.
Fix Robots.
Robot Medicine is where the future lies.


cheers,

Ron



rombsix -> RE: Lebanese pop music - where are we going to? (Jun. 18 2012 11:12:19)

Medicine is getting more difficult these days because of all the competition and the trend towards super-specialization. Most people in Lebanon graduate from medical school then travel to the USA to do their specialty and sub-specialty training. This is becoming a very challenging thing to achieve, and many have been talking about it becoming impossible in a few years' time. The issue is that Lebanon is super-saturated with medical doctors, so jobs in this field are becoming very hard to find, hence the masses of fresh-gradates going to the USA. I don't know if this applies in your country as well...

Ron - robotics is becoming more popular in medicine, but not in the sense you mentioned (treating sick robots [:)] ) but rather treating sick humans with the help of robots. Robotic surgery is growing and allows procedures to be done which often are impossible to achieve using regular human hands.

Cheers!



mottallica -> RE: Lebanese pop music - where are we going to? (Jun. 18 2012 15:21:29)

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Medicine is getting more difficult these days because of all the competition and the trend towards super-specialization. Most people in Lebanon graduate from medical school then travel to the USA to do their specialty and sub-specialty training. This is becoming a very challenging thing to achieve, and many have been talking about it becoming impossible in a few years' time. The issue is that Lebanon is super-saturated with medical doctors, so jobs in this field are becoming very hard to find, hence the masses of fresh-gradates going to the USA. I don't know if this applies in your country as well...


so close yet so far :D
here things are very different - not enough doctors since the level is super intense and hard and a lot of people even go to study in Europe because it's easier there - Israeli medicine is in very very high standards . the problem is doctors don't get paid as well as they should



Ron.M -> RE: Lebanese pop music - where are we going to? (Jun. 18 2012 15:51:28)

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but not in the sense you mentioned (treating sick robots )


Awww...that's sad! Who treats the poor wee sick robots?





(Obviously Robot Cardiac Arrest here.... I like the way they pull the screens around to give the robot some privacy and dignity.... [:D])


cheers,

Ron



rombsix -> RE: Lebanese pop music - where are we going to? (Jun. 18 2012 19:34:17)

Then stick to engineering and flamenco, motallica. [8D]

Ron - that was pretty funny man! [:D]



mottallica -> RE: Lebanese pop music - where are we going to? (Jun. 18 2012 20:45:13)

if i turn to an easier life then yes engineering if i want to help society (which i do i'm just not so sure if enough) ill go with medicine



Pedoviejo -> RE: Lebanese pop music - where are we going to? (Jun. 18 2012 23:46:21)

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if i turn to an easier life then yes engineering if i want to help society (which i do i'm just not so sure if enough) ill go with medicine


I had to become a lawyer in order to afford decent guitars. Engineering and medicine might do as well. Professional guitarist? Long shot.[>:]

And Ramzi - Great thread. Now I want to know more about Lebanese broadcasting in Lebanon in American-accented English. And I know that the connotations in English are the same in French (but not Spanish - "le chat" versus "la chatte," bien entendu - pero gatos y gatas? No quiere decir mucho en el Castellano) - is it really the same in Arabic?

And I loved it when the comic-commentator corrected Ms. Link's garbling of "schmuk" - Yiddish adopted into American English now finds its way to an Arabic-speaking country. But did she understand what it really meant? Schmuks and schmekkels? (Jewish American guy telling his friends about his vacation trip to Israel, the highlight of which was a camel ride. "And, to top it off, they let me ride the most virile, macho camel of them all!" he says.
"How could you know that?" his friend asks.
"Because wherever I rode, everyone pointed my way and said, 'Look at the schmuk on that camel!'")

BTW, my girlfriend is a physician, and at present her "chief" is from Lebanon - seems to have followed the exact path you noted: Go to U.S., become super specialist, rise in the ranks to chief of service. But it's not just the "Lebanese plan", but also the Turkish, Iranian, Indian, Israeli, Chinese..........

Back to Mottalica: I'm not certain how much you will help society by going into medicine - at least if you plan to go to or end up in the U.S. Seems we are going to follow the "market forces" model to the bitter end, and everything, including and in particular medicine, has been reduced to profit, profit, and did I remember to say profit? So we have the M.B.A.'s telling the M.D.'s how they should practice medicine while medical care becomes less and less affordable to the average citizen. But there's always Médecins Sans Frontière, for no money at all, of course.

Thanks again to all, and keep up the toque...



rombsix -> RE: Lebanese pop music - where are we going to? (Jun. 19 2012 0:01:28)

Hey Pedoviejo,

A great number of radio personalities in Lebanon who speak in English or French sound like they are actually English / American, or French. Many of them are, but others are like Nemr Abou Nassar (the one in the video above) who is a Lebanese who spent a good time in the USA and thus acquired the accent. What do you mean about connotations and Arabic?

About the "Lebanese plan" - surely medical students from many other countries do the same thing because the USA is considered to have the most state-of-the-art medicine. This is why many end up going there.

And about profit - there is a new combo that is getting very popular nowadays which is a combined MD/MBA program. Makes one wonder where this will take the medical field...

Cheers!



Pedoviejo -> RE: Lebanese pop music - where are we going to? (Jun. 19 2012 1:24:30)

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It's great to see the late 60's return again 'cos that's exactly the way it was back then.
Young people were just sick of being told what to do, what to like, how to behave, crummy music and the crummy old-man authoritarian politics that was going nowhere.
The young folk of America, UK and Europe were never closer united as back then and nobody cared about money except for living day to day.


Oh, Ron, the nostalgia, the whimsy! I donated my copy of "Europe On $5 a Day" to the Smithsonian Institute as a great historical curiosity.

But, I sadly point out, George W. Bush was from our generation too, and the right wing is back with a particularly nasty vengeance - fronted by lots of very youthful faces... and I say that without having been a "lefty" in my youth. The modern right wing makes Richard Nixon look like an old-style socialist.

If I could only travel again, going from youth hostal to youth hostal, all provided by the Dutch government for $5 or less a night, Heinekens waiting at the reception, my bed next to a radiator with drying stockings belonging to the as yet seen girl who will soon be sleeping in the bed next to mine. But this while some of my classmates disappeared into the jungles of Viet Nam.

Have we improved at all? Maybe we just passed the buck on to Ramzi, Motallica et als., with a note: "Gave it a shot, eh. Sorry about that. Your turn now."

I'm still working on a better epitaph.



BarkellWH -> RE: Lebanese pop music - where are we going to? (Jun. 19 2012 1:52:18)

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I'm still working on a better epitaph.


The Sixties was the best of times and the worst of times. While there were a lot of good things, there also was a lot of foolishness that was passed off as "insight."

As for the "better epitaph," in my opinion nothing beats the observation in Lady Caroline Lamb's diary about Lord Byron: "He was mad, bad, and dangerous to know." Now that's what I would like engraved on my tombstone!

Cheers,

Bill



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