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noly -> Seguiriya from Sevilla (Jun. 7 2012 15:13:58)

Its been a year of recording FLAMENCOSIS, soon you can download free album of Manuel Soto "Noly" ... while listening to this seguiriya.





athrane77 -> RE: Seguiriya from Sevilla (Jun. 9 2012 10:50:41)

the seguiriya parts are quite nice, but this rumbaish (don't mean compás, but it sounds like rumba in its composition caracter) intro and those chezzy spots between the cante are a bit annoying...




bursche -> RE: Seguiriya from Sevilla (Jun. 9 2012 10:58:56)

Got to second that. Definitely not my taste. It is well played and well sung, though.




noly -> RE: Seguiriya from Sevilla (Jun. 9 2012 11:00:09)

For tastes are the colors ... not everyone may like experimentation in flamenco, make a seguiriya respecting the times and introduce new elements only creates new horizons ...




XXX -> RE: Seguiriya from Sevilla (Jun. 9 2012 12:11:31)

I like it, although i am very conserved when it comes to fusion.
It is common to switch the key to major say in bulerias, to switch the color of the piece, make it happier. I think the changes in composition which occur here, from trad to "modern" (lack of a better word), serve the same function, so i think its totally legit. Besides that i found it refreshing to hear new material played in seguiriya compas. The intro is such a killer, im going to steal that. The way the melody sits on the compas is totally sweet and unreal. IMO you could leave out the traditional/cante part and make an extremely interesting musical piece out of it, but the way it is now is also very nice.




Munin -> RE: Seguiriya from Sevilla (Jun. 9 2012 13:02:58)

I like it too.




kudo -> RE: Seguiriya from Sevilla (Jun. 9 2012 13:14:02)

I wish I did not hear this...I personally think its commercial music in the compas of seguiriya with no essence of true seguiriya, no roots and no meaning




bursche -> RE: Seguiriya from Sevilla (Jun. 9 2012 18:00:56)

quote:

For tastes are the colors


I have no doubt that there'll be a lot of peolple who like it. Anyway keep up the good work.




malakka -> RE: Seguiriya from Sevilla (Jun. 9 2012 18:15:15)

I like it. It is an interesting venture in Siguiriyas. I don't here rumba at all, but Siguiriyas all the way - compas. Thank you for sharing.




XXX -> RE: Seguiriya from Sevilla (Jun. 9 2012 21:08:49)

quote:

ORIGINAL: bursche

quote:

For tastes are the colors


I have no doubt that there'll be a lot of peolple who like it. Anyway keep up the good work.


really? I doubt that very much. Its too much compas in there to be as easy to digest as rumba for the easy listening folks. And its too few traditional in there to please the moderate and die-hard puro people.
btw this is great to play. I never knew that a D7 chord can sound so beautifully.




RTC -> RE: Seguiriya from Sevilla (Jun. 9 2012 22:21:14)

I have to agree with Deniz.

I tend to like the more traditional, but this is very pleasent.




athrane77 -> RE: Seguiriya from Sevilla (Jun. 10 2012 10:00:51)

i meant its composition character, compás is seguiriyas for sure, but the intro sounds like a cheesy Ottmar Liebert arrangement. sorry.




noly -> RE: Seguiriya from Sevilla (Jun. 10 2012 13:51:14)

First of all, I apologize for my poor English ...

First it was the rhythm, the compas (beat), the measure and the sense of the solea, the dance “Por alegrias” on one side and male “Serrana” and she called “Seguiriya” , being the well, the basis and foundation The outbreak of the soul of a region called Andalucía, where I come ...
there is literally “arte flamenco” to the nineteenth century (XIX), the effort to illuminate it and develop racial produces a group of artists, glorious unknown townspeople (blacksmiths, wheelwrights, farmers, fishermen, shepherds, all born in a concentrated industry, ignorant of music written, spontaneous and inspired by the environment around them.

The Flamenco stuck with grief opened an early stage in the twentieth century (XX) who risked fruitfully and constructively with songs and lyrics of Marin Rodriguez or Antonio Machado (father), only flamencos, which express the passion and emotional movements of a people crying out in sorrow or joy, but there was no such bad taste to retreat into the macabre.

This generation of early twentieth century (XX) was more fair, although the Flemish had the prejudice of being an isolated art to the suburbs of the show, classic artists such as Manuel de Falla and Joaquin Turina were at the head of a movement that would be even more respected.

Until today ... century, Spain have labeled the party and tambourine, with flamenco as bait. Despite institutional efforts, there has been a union guild for our exporters to define exactly which way and development of what is done today, it is true that in Spain you lift a stone and leaving guitarists, dancers or singers who silenced mouth more than a presumptuous Liebert, Benise, Lara & Reyes, etc ... with the label of flamenco want to enlarge your ranch, confounding those who want to learn this art.

To know and love flamenco is not necessary to come to Spain, but it helps a lot, especially being born in Seville.

What is certain is that if you have no rhythm or compas (beat) or know the flamenco ... not even touch the palms, you will be very bad.

The mine is a bet an amateur, who has spent years playing guitar and has brought many to love this art, through many recordings, with knowledge of the guitar and flamenco.


[:)]




Munin -> RE: Seguiriya from Sevilla (Jun. 10 2012 16:33:43)

Many of us here can understand Spanish so feel free to express your thoughts that way as well.




Ron.M -> RE: Seguiriya from Sevilla (Jun. 10 2012 16:59:31)

Hi noly,

It's definitely "modern" but I find it an interesting composition.

It's certainly got a different "color" as compared to traditional Seguiriyas, but it's definitely Flamenco.

I mean you get really melancholy Alegrias too, don't you? Am Em

So why not a faster, lighter Seguiriyas?

I think it's a good piece of experimental work.

Definitely not "Fakemenco" (or even Fusion really)

If Gerardo Nuñez had released it then there would have been less questioning and more appreciation I think.

Great guitar tone, noly!

cheers,

Ron




noly -> RE: Seguiriya from Sevilla (Jun. 11 2012 21:35:03)

It is an experimental work, is not pure flamenco for purists (puristas), perhaps the next, there are elements such as electric bass or electric guitar, from there is the fusion or mixture.

Here you have another topic open to interpretation, with an air of soleá, walking the buleria soleá and ending bulerias of Morón (Sevilla) ... where they come from my ancestors.

Hope you like it, is the title track to the album, and within a few days to rid my work who wants to download it.

Note: The Fakemenco not exist, only musicians who know a culture.

regards

Noly





RTC -> RE: Seguiriya from Sevilla (Jun. 12 2012 2:13:26)

Noly:

You are a very talented guitarist, I enjoyed your music.

Eres un guitarrista con mucho talento, y e disfrutado tu musica.




NenadK -> RE: Seguiriya from Sevilla (Jun. 12 2012 4:33:36)

I quite like it. It's definitely not traditional and sounds somewhat experimental but it fits the compas and is definitely flamenco. The intro to the seguirilla is the same compas just faster. To me personally the tempo is part of what makes the palo what it is, but that doesn't make this bad by any stretch.

Keep up the good work man! [:)]




NormanKliman -> RE: Seguiriya from Sevilla (Jun. 12 2012 7:10:33)

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