Transition from Eb phrygian to E phrygian

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athrane77 -> Transition from Eb phrygian to E phrygian (May 20 2012 9:40:21)
Hey, i'm learning the first few falseta from Vicente's Soleá "Córdoba" which is played in Eb. I'd like to use this beautiful falsetas as an Intro for my other Soleá Falsetas in E phrygian. How can I transpose from Eb to E? Any Ideas? Thanks

rombsix -> RE: Transition from Eb phrygian to E phrygian (May 20 2012 9:57:29)
Play the Eb stuff with a capo on 1, and when you're done with that bit, snap the capo right off, and continue playing without it. [:D] Or, move the recording in Eb one half-step up (using some software), then use your ear to reproduce the playing as closely as possible in E. Problem solved. [8D]

athrane77 -> RE: Transition from Eb phrygian to E phrygian (May 20 2012 10:01:01)
Nice idea with the capo ramzi :D I'll practice snaping my capo off a compás :D

rombsix -> RE: Transition from Eb phrygian to E phrygian (May 20 2012 10:12:15)
quote: I'll practice snaping my capo off a compás :D Don't be surprised, this is actually done in many live performances (not flamenco, but I don't see why you can't extend the logic to flamenco). There are things called "Trigger Capos" by Dunlop (which is what I use). They can be put on and removed SUPER fast, so it can actually be done. [;)]

Munin -> RE: Transition from Eb phrygian to E phrygian (May 20 2012 10:14:51)
Doesn't Vicente already modulate to E in Cordoba himself? Or am I confusing the piece?

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rombsix -> RE: Transition from Eb phrygian to E phrygian (May 20 2012 10:31:00)
quote: he modulates from E to Eb after the first few compases but also at the end from Eb to E thanks i didnt realized that The piece is played by Vicente with a capo on the first fret, in case you are not sure. PM me if you need help figuring out how to play it... Cheers!

Ricardo -> RE: Transition from Eb phrygian to E phrygian (May 21 2012 13:20:26)
quote: ORIGINAL: jof goodbye cejilla [:D] such a good idea [8D] he modulates from E to Eb after the first few compases but also at the end from Eb to E[:@] thanks i didnt realized that [8\|] Personally I never found his modulation convincing, but would have pointed out that you could use it to transition any time you needed to, had you not finally realzied it yourself.

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machopicasso -> RE: Transition from Eb phrygian to E phrygian (May 22 2012 9:01:43)
quote: Personally I never found his modulation convincing How so? Are you referring to "Córdoba", in particular?

athrane77 -> RE: Transition from Eb phrygian to E phrygian (Jun. 9 2012 10:57:12)
I don't understood ricardo in this case. I always found Vicentes transition VERY convincing, one can hardly recognize while listening to vicentes recordings, that he changed keys all the time.

Ricardo -> RE: Transition from Eb phrygian to E phrygian (Jun. 9 2012 20:12:07)
quote: ORIGINAL: jof I don't understood ricardo in this case. I always found Vicentes transition VERY convincing, one can hardly recognize while listening to vicentes recordings, that he changed keys all the time. Its my opinion that's all. He basically takes a dissonant chord shape and it's a weird key jump. He could have done a smoother modal move where he uses the typical move from E phyrgian to E major via B7. THen move E ionian-> E lydian, using the open E as a drone. Would be super smooth. But it is what it is, and I only pointed out that you can use exactly what he does if you must.

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