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larone -> Anyone got ideas for changeing harmony?? (Jul. 28 2005 1:52:05)

Hi, just wondering if there's a few different ways to approach key changes or just different chords in flamenco??? I thought that since there's been a new bunch of flamenco players with a jazz influence, is there a new set of 'rules' which they now use to create different harmony? So if you're playing a standard Alegrias in E and you want to move to a new sound........what happens? Is this a case of trial and error? or is there some logic behind it all? Applying some jazz harmony ideas works sometimes but it can get a bit too jazzy. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
WAH
Larone




Doitsujin -> RE: Anyone got ideas for changeing harmony?? (Jul. 28 2005 14:49:11)

Its not only Jazz. Many players invent new chords which are complete harmonical **** but they sound very good. Fantasy chords.
And there are many new ways to tune the guitar. Alain Faucher wrote an article on his homepage about the new harmonies.




Guest -> RE: Anyone got ideas for changeing harmony?? (Jul. 28 2005 16:20:05)

There's no rules anymore-you can modulate if you please. The acid test is does it sound flamenco? Some players do a temporary modulation up a minor third. Works in many palos like solea, bulerias, sig, etc. In alegrias in E, some people use C# minor as a jumping off point. It substitutes for the E. Also in alegrias in E, I really like the move to an Am chord. Take a listen to "Avante Claro" by Pele. I figured out these chords a long time ago, and there were a lot of surprises. I have since heard similar changes in many alegrias. In solea, try Gm, and even Fm instead of the major chords. I really think flamencos just try different chords until they find something they like that sounds flamenco to them. I don't think they have rules. It's for others to come along and try to figure it out and create the "rule". By then, the flamencos are working on the next thing. A knowledge of jazz harmony could be very valuable, but as you said, a regular II V I is unlikely to work. I think a focus on unusual inversions using open strings whenever possible as opposed to just using different chords may produce good results as well. Then there are alternate tunings and playing palos in different positions (like playing bulerias in tarrantas key) Sheesh, who has time for all this!?




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