When to change chords in soleá or soleá por bulerías (Full Version)

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tateharmann -> When to change chords in soleá or soleá por bulerías (Mar. 15 2012 17:31:13)

After scouring the forum it looks like the generally accepted best practice for beginners like me is to learn the compás. So that's what I'll do. I have a Juan Serrano method book that I've been looking through and I was playing around with the soleá palo last night. It's supposed to be 12 beats with accents on 3, 6, 8, 10, and 12 according to the book. I was assuming since it was 12 beats and 4 chords that each chord would take 3 beats. So I was playing:

Am - 1, 2, and 3. G - 4, 5, and 6. F - 7, 8, and 9. E - 10, 11, and 12.

Then I would accent 3, 6, 8, 10, 12 with golpe.

I then realized that I shouldn't have assumed because I watched Adam del Monte's soleá por bulerías on youtube and he was doing (in D minor key so chords are different):

Dm - 1, 2, 3. C - 4, 5, 6. Bb - 7, 8. A - 9, 10, 11, 12.

He accented with golpe the same way I did on 3, 6, 8, 10, and 12.

So my question is the chords aren't supposed to get equal beats? Maybe that was something I missed in the Serrano book. Also, is it acceptable to play soleá in D minor key? Or is it usually in A minor?

Thanks,

Sorry for the ignorance

Tate




rombsix -> RE: When to change chords in soleá or soleá por bulerías (Mar. 15 2012 19:05:42)

I'm not the expert, but I'm going to chip in.

Solea chording compas is usually done in two ways:

E, E7, F (without barre), remate on E, Fmaj7, E, Fmaj7, remate on E

or

Fmaj7 (beats 1,2,3), C (beats 4,5,6), Fmaj7 (beats 4,5,6), remate on E (beats 10,11, 12).

Solea por buleria goes like this:

A phrygian chord (beats 1 through 6), arpeggio cierre/remate on Bb (beats 7,8,9) then remate on A (beats 10, 11, 12).

You can see me do the compas of both over here:







tateharmann -> RE: When to change chords in soleá or soleá por bulerías (Mar. 16 2012 2:06:39)

Awesome! Great videos...the one I really liked was the arabic one...but I don't speak arabic so I may have mis-interpreted it haha. What you wrote makes sense though. I'm going to keep hammering away at it. When I try to play flamenco it feels like I don't even play guitar haha. But I've been "rasgueando" my fingers on everything around the house so hopefully soon it will sound good on the guitar and I'll do some recordings.

Thanks!
Tate




tateharmann -> RE: When to change chords in soleá or soleá por bulerías (Mar. 16 2012 2:39:45)

I did a quick little recording of what you were showing in your vid at about 2:05. Is it right?

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=194085&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1

Thanks,
Tate




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