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jg7238 -> Manitas de Plata (Mar. 14 2012 4:24:00)
I found this video of Manitas de Plata playing at the age of 89!

stratos13 -> RE: Manitas de Plata (Mar. 14 2012 8:48:26)
The accompanist on his left (or right per our perspective) has a Paco autograph on his guitar? [:D] Anyways, amazing to be so healthy at this age, both in body and mind, to be able to play like that! Some people simply have a gift!

rombsix -> RE: Manitas de Plata (Mar. 14 2012 8:57:11)
quote: I found this video of Manitas de Plata playing at the age of 89! Man that's nothing for Manitas. Legend has it he will have 220 BPM picado at age 302 years. [8D]

BarkellWH -> RE: Manitas de Plata (Mar. 14 2012 9:59:46)
Manitas de Plata's crowning moment was around 1969 when he played for Brigitte Bardot while she played with her hair, sucked her finger, and gave Manitas the most adoring looks one can imagine. (No girl ever looked at me like that while I played my guitar!) The video can be accessed by typing in the key words "Manitas de Plata and Brigitte Bardot." It really is worth a look, just to watch Brigitte Bardot's reaction. Apparently, Manitas was BB's lover (or at least one of them) during this period. Cheers, Bill

hamia -> RE: Manitas de Plata (Mar. 15 2012 1:13:49)
quote: ORIGINAL: stratos13 The accompanist on his left (or right per our perspective) has a Paco autograph on his guitar? [:D] Anyways, amazing to be so healthy at this age, both in body and mind, to be able to play like that! Some people simply have a gift! That and low tension strings - lol ...

Paul Magnussen -> RE: Manitas de Plata (Dec. 10 2015 18:47:25)
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Stu -> RE: Manitas de Plata (Dec. 11 2015 11:45:42)
Is this a joke?

rombsix -> RE: Manitas de Plata (Dec. 11 2015 13:52:12)
quote: Is this a joke? Yes. The girl portrayed in the back is some sort of gymnast who got famous online for having that facial expression when she won the gold medal. The facial expression makes her look "un-impressed", and this became a meme people would use where they would have something awesome going on (such as Manitas giving a concert at the age of 102), while she is in the background appearing "un-impressed".

BarkellWH -> RE: Manitas de Plata (Dec. 11 2015 14:12:02)
Manitas de Plata as the world's first known successful case of cryonics (often erroneously termed cryogenics), having been brought back to life after being cryopreserved. Bill

hamia -> RE: Manitas de Plata (Dec. 11 2015 14:29:19)
quote: ORIGINAL: jg7238 I found this video of Manitas de Plata playing at the age of 89! The guy from Status Quo very much wants his wig back. I find it amusing to watch Manitas de Plata's videos. He gives the appearance of being disconnected from what he's playing - almost like he's a member of the audience. The other strange thing about him are his fans - they are somehow convinced he is a serious contender for world's best guitarist.

Ruphus -> RE: Manitas de Plata (Dec. 11 2015 15:15:04)
quote: ORIGINAL: BarkellWH The video can be accessed by typing in the key words "Manitas de Plata and Brigitte Bardot." It really is worth a look, just to watch Brigitte Bardot's reaction. Apparently, Manitas was BB's lover (or at least one of them) during this period. Cheers, Bill Just had to check that out, thank you for the pointer. In the following I saw comments about BB´s today´s appearance. Makes you wonder whether commenting dumbs ever consider what they´re doing to the people. Asides from their other trend-following eternal youth mania that makes them blind for the other kind of beauty that a once naive chick developed while becoming a lady. Not fond of age in the mirror, as a photographer though appreciating portraits of wrinkled motifs. The gripe I had about BB was her sympathy for Le Pen. However, seeing how meanwhile the right wingers occupied themes lunatic establishment decided to ignore, I can´t mind her even that. - Never thought to one day agree with such a party, but a sinking western ship of culture beats me to it. Ruphus

Cervantes -> RE: Manitas de Plata (Mar. 29 2016 19:01:38)
So at what age does flamenco guitar technique start to decline instead of advance? I am 58 and only playing a year, so I hope I have at least 10 years of improvement ahead of me.

Piwin -> RE: Manitas de Plata (Mar. 29 2016 21:23:34)
quote: So at what age does flamenco guitar technique start to decline instead of advance? I am 58 and only playing a year, so I hope I have at least 10 years of improvement ahead of me. A few years ago I saw Pepe Habichuela at a show in Granada. I commented to some local friends that I thought you could tell he had aged and it was getting harder for him to play (he must be somewhere in his 70s at this point). I got harshly reprimanded for even suggesting that...though I didn't mean it as any kind of criticism, he still plays far better than I'll ever be able to. Arguably even Paco was probably not at his peak during his last years as far as technique is concerned. There are so many things that can influence technique that it's hard to say how much age actually factors in. For my part, I just try to focus on telling a story through music within my technical limitations, whatever those may be. (One of my teachers set me straight once when I was probably complaining about having started too late in life, never being able to catch up with Pdl's speed, etc. etc. and he said "if you think Paco is better than you just because he plays faster, you're dead wrong. He could play a simple open E string and make it sound better than you." Harsh but I know what he meant.. it's all about what you put into it, every single note)

Escribano -> RE: Manitas de Plata (Mar. 29 2016 21:31:12)
quote: So at what age does flamenco guitar technique start to decline instead of advance? I am 58 and only playing a year, so I hope I have at least 10 years of improvement ahead of me. You can play solid flamenco with a few falsetas, a few chords and some pulgar, but I still haven't figured out how [:D] Then again, I never learned to accompany cante, where it all comes together.

gerundino63 -> RE: Manitas de Plata (Mar. 29 2016 21:43:01)
A good friend of mine, 72 years is learning the Soleares, once every three weeks I visit him to go trough some falseta's. Everytime he is getting better, to say with his own words " I get less worse everytime".......[:D]

Cervantes -> RE: Manitas de Plata (Mar. 29 2016 22:20:06)
Well Paco Pena probably my favorite is 73, I think he is not playing as sharp as when he was younger but he was the very top and still is probably the top 0.1%. It seems he has other priorities these days as well.

Paul Magnussen -> RE: Manitas de Plata (Mar. 30 2016 15:41:56)
quote: It seems he has other priorities these days as well. Paco has grandchildren now: that will do it every time.

BarkellWH -> RE: Manitas de Plata (Mar. 30 2016 16:37:59)
quote: Well Paco Pena probably my favorite is 73, I think he is not playing as sharp as when he was younger but he was the very top and still is probably the top 0.1%. It seems he has other priorities these days as well. Paco Pena has been my favorite of those running the circuit for many years now. I like his more traditional style of play. It's not that he hasn't evolved. He has, but less so than others, including Paco de Lucia, Vicente Amigo, and others who probably are more popular. Paco Pena is much more steady and old-school in his approach. I hasten to add that mine is a minority opinion among Foro members, but there it is. Bill

Cervantes -> RE: Manitas de Plata (Mar. 30 2016 16:48:29)
quote: ORIGINAL: BarkellWH quote: Well Paco Pena probably my favorite is 73, I think he is not playing as sharp as when he was younger but he was the very top and still is probably the top 0.1%. It seems he has other priorities these days as well. Paco Pena has been my favorite of those running the circuit for many years now. I like his more traditional style of play. It's not that he hasn't evolved. He has, but less so than others, including Paco de Lucia, Vicente Amigo, and others who probably are more popular. Paco Pena is much more steady and old-school in his approach. I hasten to add that mine is a minority opinion among Foro members, but there it is. Bill Bill, I agree with you 100%. I know Vicente is popular and his technique is over the top, but his music is so abstract I can't really even listen to it. I think Antonio Rey has a good balance of traditional and modern and his technique is every bit as good.

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BarkellWH -> RE: Manitas de Plata (May 26 2016 13:51:23)
quote: That video with Bardot is obviously staged. There is no way guitar playing can have that effect on young women. They basically don't care about it. I don't think it was staged, Grisha. For one thing, my understanding is that at the time (around 1969) the video was made, Manitas was Bardot's (or at least one of Bardot's) lovers and she was his paramour. So it may have been more than just the guitar. Additionally, I have seen young women really swept away by flamenco guitar, and not just flamenco but Spanish guitarists playing other Spanish genres as well. It never happened to me the way BB is reacting to Manitas, but I do think a well-played Spanish guitar does have an effect on many (if not all) women. Bill

Grisha -> RE: Manitas de Plata (May 26 2016 14:03:31)
Then I am not playing it well I guess.

Piwin -> RE: Manitas de Plata (May 26 2016 14:07:00)
quote: There is no way guitar playing can have that effect on young women It's the long lush hair. I can't compete on that level. I'm just biding my time until bald(ing) becomes the new sexy.[:D]

Dudnote -> RE: Manitas de Plata (May 26 2016 15:04:24)
quote: ORIGINAL: Grisha There is no way guitar playing can have that effect on young women. She's sandwiched between 2 guitars playing chico style with a belting rythme just 30 cm either side of her. That distance in stereo doesn't only make the sound very impressive - it makes her the center of attention. All eyes are on her. There's a lot more going on there than afficion for flamenco. They're panderring up her ego so it wouldn't have matter all that much what they played (although Seguiryas would not have had the same effect)

Mark2 -> RE: Manitas de Plata (May 26 2016 17:49:33)
No Grisha, You are playing far too well. At least that's my theory. My vastly inferior playing has on occasion resulted in attracting attention from females, although that has waned considerably as my age has increased. If it was about the playing, you'd be surrounded by females of all description. Who can figure the minds of women anyway? Not me for sure. quote: ORIGINAL: Grisha Then I am not playing it well I guess.

Leñador -> RE: Manitas de Plata (May 26 2016 18:26:26)
Play for dance classes Grisha, it'd be shooting fish in a barrel for you. My terrible mediocre flamenco and metal playing has gotten me plenty of ladies that would normally be out of my fat hairy bearded league. Lolol Maybe it's the classical crowd you hang around, they expect virtuosity instead of being impressed by it.

Ricardo -> RE: Manitas de Plata (May 26 2016 18:55:42)
quote: ORIGINAL: Grisha Then I am not playing it well I guess. One need not play well at all to have charisma. Manitas yes he banged Bridgette...while that fact must be over shadowed by the realization that the guy had something like 40 children. Despite the obvious negative implications of such a thing, the "sons" and "daughters" in the Gitano community are quite proud to admit who their biological father is.

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