KMMI77 -> RE: Online music (Feb. 9 2012 3:51:20)
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Not that it makes breaking the law alright, but the entertainment industry is one of the most bloated and excessive there is. The biggest stakeholders are people in suits, not artists. I assume you don't walk into your local shopping centre and steal things under this same reasoning? I can understand people taking advantage of current conditions and utilizing stuff that is made available for free. But when they make the transition to believing it's an entitlement? ...?? Left unrestricted, people have shown their willingness to steal and disregard the consequences to others. Amongst other dodgy things. So just as laws have been set up within normal society. So they will be within internet society. It's the peoples behavior that encourages the restrictions to be placed upon us. And many of these people are no better than the fat cat suits in my opinion. I would like to see these "middle men" who have taken advantage of other peoples talents put in their place as much as the next guy. Sites enabling your average Joe to put himself out there is a good first step. The music and film industry bigwigs have certainly had their time controlling and dictating what is good, and what becomes popular with the people. The internet is providing a great platform for people to compete with it. And restricting copyright violation doesn't have to halt the process IMO. quote:
There will always be rogue sites that infringe on copyright, just as there were always bootleggers, Sure there will always be a few. But i wonder how many people will take the chance to download illegally once sophisticated internet tracking, GPS, Internet ID, facial recognition and eventual links to your bank account become part of the equation? Once again, it will be the peoples behavior that enables this. quote:
The people who will be affected by all these internet laws are people like you - web savvy but not 'hackers'. Ramzi won't be able to post his covers on youtube and you won't be able to post a tune asking for help with falsetas. Legit sites that don't mean any harm will be prosecuted while the actual pirating sites will continue to thrive because they will be 'underground'. Yes, there would be changes. And sites will be forced to adapt, and they will. I can deal with that. I learnt to play flamenco guitar without the internet. I paid for cd's, lessons etc.. out of my own pocket. I will also still be free to write original music, record it, sell it and even share it for free if i choose. But under current conditions, there is no way i am going to spend all the time practicing, money hiring a pro studio, money hiring some great musicians and audio engineers to work with, and then creating the best cd i can, just to sell a few copies and have it distributed world wide for free. I'd have to be an idiot! quote:
And why shouldn't they be making money off of every video that is uploaded? I think you misunderstood my post and have made this assumption. I'm for service providers making money providing the video content is also getting a fare share. And having people distribute content that they don't own enables these fat cats to profit without the owner receiving anything. quote:
Don't forget that youtube is the whole reason we're able to share our videos so easily. Regardless, the amount of money that is made by an average video that has less than a million views is pretty insignificant and I hardly expect any flamenco artist to be enticed by your proposed arrangement. We're not talking justin bieber with 5 million views. Do you really think that a site like you tube would not reopen following a new set of guidelines if it was shut down due to copyright? I believe they would, and sites like this one would adapt to follow new guidelines. Although marketing obviously plays a significant role in popularity. Flamenco guitar videos not achieving a high view count can be attributed to the popularity of the content. It's not as if youtube has been censoring them.I think flamenco guitarists will be happy to get something rather than nothing. Even if it is a small amount. have a look at earnings on social blade website. Compare how much money PDL could have made from his videos. On a different note, you tubes recent changes have significantly enabled them to promote their chosen content. This type of change i don't like. Now that you tube has achieved such popularity, deciding to implement changes that change the very structure that made them popular in the first place? well, we will see what happens? quote:
It's admirable how you rush to defend the copyright holders, but if you do some research on who is really being hurt by piracy you'll be in for a rude awakening. As someone who follows alternative media and enjoys watching anything controversial or conspiracy related, I doubt it.[:D]Don't forget, i am talking about copyright violation and not internet censorship. That is another issue.
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