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Escribano -> My photo of the week 29 (Jan. 30 2012 22:33:01)

Another one from the little Canon S95 point and shoot. Amazing what images these cheap cameras can produce with some care. I am thinking about a project of images just from this camera taken when I travel.

A stranger on the train heading West, out of London.



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rombsix -> RE: My photo of the week 29 (Jan. 30 2012 22:57:28)

Is it legal to be taking photos of strangers and posting them on the web? Do they even realize that you are taking photos of them? Have you ever gotten into any trouble for doing something like that?

Cheers!



Doitsujin -> RE: My photo of the week 29 (Jan. 30 2012 23:39:22)

Nice one! Looks kind of futuristic in a spaceship. Great, I really like science fiction! =)



Escribano -> RE: My photo of the week 29 (Jan. 30 2012 23:50:42)

It is not illegal to take a photo of someone in England in a public place. I have had more trouble with security and police acting under anti-terror laws in public places.

It can be illegal to sell photos for commercial gain without a release from the subject. I've been taking photos for many years and only got arrested once, in Africa. Some people do realise I am taking their photo. I just smile, nod and walk on, with or without the shot.

I never take photos of accident victims, the physically or mentally challenged, the destitute, junkies, prostitutes or drunks.



rombsix -> RE: My photo of the week 29 (Jan. 31 2012 0:04:16)

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It is not illegal to take a photo of someone in England in a public place.


Yeah, but you are doing that without the person's consent, and it is not someone you know. Doesn't that change things?



Escribano -> RE: My photo of the week 29 (Jan. 31 2012 0:15:33)

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Yeah, but you are doing that without the person's consent, and it is not someone you know. Doesn't that change things?


No, if it is in a public place i.e. not in a private place, and does not amount to harassment, then it is not against the law in England.



Brendan -> RE: My photo of the week 29 (Jan. 31 2012 8:11:52)

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I never take photos of accident victims, the physically or mentally challenged, the destitute, junkies, prostitutes or drunks.


I want a photo of the moment when you woke her up to ask whether she is a prostitute.



Ron.M -> RE: My photo of the week 29 (Jan. 31 2012 8:21:20)

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the destitute, junkies, prostitutes or drunks.


or flamencos...[:D]

cheers,

Ron



Escribano -> RE: My photo of the week 29 (Jan. 31 2012 8:23:12)

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I want a photo of the moment when you woke her up to ask whether she is a prostitute.


[;)]



Ruphus -> RE: My photo of the week 29 (Jan. 31 2012 13:36:14)

Not to devalue what Ramzi is pointing to, for when it is about images of single persons I would hesitate too / ask for permission in advance or tell them afterwards with the option to delete.

And yet, all in all, what´s the fuzz about in general; with the exeption of the muslim world, and some indigene cultures who fear spirits to be captured in photography?

In the muslim culture it is all about suppressed sexuality and the consequential insuiniation / paranoia that someone could please himself with looking at images of a person in question.
From there I see girls paniking, fearing that I could show their image around or worse even display it in the internet. As if the world was waiting to drool over photographies, no matter even whether the motive be good looking at all or not in the first place.

And when asked to take shots on weddings you´ll always notice some grimmly looking guys in the periphery, worried that you could be taking pictures of female family members; until the hosts quietly ensuring them that I am acquainted and secret.

Not to mention images yet with the lad´s scrafs off.
This I have exclusively been allowed when either considered suitor ( and still all the time going on like "Please, please don´t show to anybody, ... please ..."), or in homes of fathers whom I am close friends with and who know that they can rely on me to not show around any pics for their sake.
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So many actual yelling issues around, and then such obsolete focus on really nothing.
--

- Just today the doghouse was stolen that I had set up for stray dogs. Organized, paid for and worked on; gone.
How instead about concerns on mentality of bigottery and theft for a change.
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It is really amazing what that little camera can do, Escribano.
All that option, and that while taking place in one´s pants pocket. Crazy stuff!

And on a very different note:
Looking up the S95 just out of interest after your last picture, I thought to not hurt if I besides peeped into D5 updates.
And being all on fire again about that dang that me had put on halt. ( Meanwhile also a grand less expensive in anticipation of coming version III.)

Drooling again, fighting with myself back and forth, until it whispered into my ear that I could start out with a downgraded wishlist of just the body and an EF 70-200 2,8 L IS II USM.

Now already comparing prices here and in the EU ...

And what I want to actually say is ...


Escribano, it is your fault! [&:] [8D] [:D]

Ruphus



Ron.M -> RE: My photo of the week 29 (Jan. 31 2012 14:30:59)

Hi Ruphus,

That's interesting, what you say about photography and the Muslim world.
I didn't know that. Does it just affect very religious families?
What must they make of the glut of pornography on the Net?
Or even raunchy videos on MTV etc?
Or even News crews with video cameras?

Sorry to hear some evil people stole your doghouse.
Did you have it near your home or had you located it on the dump where the puppies lived?

That's sad anyway.

All the best Ruphus old chap.

cheers,

Ron



Ruphus -> RE: My photo of the week 29 (Jan. 31 2012 15:36:28)

Hey Ron,

You come to my mind every once in a while, wishing you strong and humoured as you are. :O)

Naturally, the less religious seem to care much less, but will oft times bow into mainstream still, because of what´s broadly considered honor. ( Whichs special version has nothing to do with ethics, but with sexuality.)
To a degree understandably so, for wo likes the surrounding to be rumouring about your female kids to be slapper, just because of utter insignificant BS.

What folks make "of the glut of pornography on the Net"?
You guess it in a prude environment. Would demand for stimulous typically be lesser or increased? [8|]
Over internet acces should be a bit cumbersome due to millions of banned websites and required VPNs, but satellite TV receivers are installed everywhere ( and reinstalled after vice squad tearing down the dishes from housetops in intervals), and rather likely not just for watching movies.

The doghouse was in the dump, though hidden behind a wall.

What after all did stupid I expect?
That it might not be taken, only because it had written something to the extend of "This has been bought and installed as doghouse. Who might want to take it away shall be aware that it would be stealing".
As if anyone could be caring in a rotten mentality, just because of a dishonorable action being unquestionably declared / obvious.

I´m still slapping my front head for my hopeless silliness.
... And damn, why does it sound hollow like a cajon? [8D]

Ruphus

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Escribano -> RE: My photo of the week 29 (Jan. 31 2012 15:55:30)

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Just today the doghouse was stolen that I had set up for stray dogs. Organized, paid for and worked on; gone.


I'm really sorry to read this. I despise such people and their cold, selfish hearts.

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Escribano, it is your fault!


I know. It's called GAS or "Glass Acquisition Syndrome". A well known affliction. Nothing you can do but sleep on it for a long time or go buy it and a little S95 for the pocket [:D]

In the Internet world, it is just one click away. I don't know what you have already, but the 5D Mk IIs are getting much cheaper. Stick on the L zoom and you are all set.



Estevan -> RE: My photo of the week 29 (Jan. 31 2012 17:19:38)

Another nice shot, Simon - great chiaroscuro.
Keep 'em coming.



Ruphus -> RE: My photo of the week 29 (Jan. 31 2012 18:42:35)

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ORIGINAL: Escribano

I know. It's called GAS or "Glass Acquisition Syndrome". A well known affliction.

;O) So true. ( Audio recording ) Gear Acquisition Syndrome, Guitar Acquisition Syndrome, Glass Acquisition Syndrome.
Me could have bought an apartment or a luxury car of it.

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ORIGINAL: Escribano

Nothing you can do but sleep on it for a long time or ... [:D]


Exactly what I was doing since the D5 was released, until only days ago.
( But it appears to be a good point in time anyway, now before ver. III, while ver. II can still be found new at current price level.)

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ORIGINAL: Escribano

In the Internet world, it is just one click away.

Unfortunately not everywhere.
Should it turn out that local dealers are price gauging as they mostly do / me forced to buy in Europe, I would have to wait until someone bringing it over to me. With the last guitar bought from abroad it took 10 months until arrival.

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ORIGINAL: Escribano

the 5D Mk IIs are getting much cheaper. Stick on the L zoom and you are all set.


Man I so hardly can´t wait to check it out! >drool< A lens like that is so versatile, yet ought to deliver such a quality throughout its range.
- And the dedicated Canon SW on top allows vast pp correction of the little optical distortions remaining. ( Tailored to body and individual lens in question!)
... One could for instance expose razor sharp puppy portraits in ways that a trash background would be blurred away. [:)] If the objects only decided to stand still for a moment.

Must be like a dream altogether.
I only hope that it won´t have to be a new laptop as well for to process those huge files.

Ruphus



gbv1158 -> RE: My photo of the week 29 (Jan. 31 2012 20:08:53)

I'd like to say a lot about this photo, but it is difficult in English, so I'll use short sentences about the main first characteristics I note:

1) value of composition due to the many elements : the girl, the location (interior bus), the sky in the window, the drape of the clothes, the space defined by the sets, etc., the all generating an interesting blend between interior and exterior;

2) perfection of the light due to the lively presence of it (the sky in the window) and the warm in the red cloth (the first reminds me of the sense of the light in Michelangelo and the second the one in Caravaggio);

3) the sense of the beauty in a face of a girl "while sleeping" (that adds a sense of mystery);

4) the idea that the beauty is something “alive” when somehow the human figure is involved in the “phenomena” ( the scene in the photo);

5) the erotic component of the beauty due by the subject of the young gilr sleeping so sweetly;

6) the sense of drama generated by the light in the photo compared with the subject of the young sleeping girl;

7) the sense of general ( the entire scene of the photo) and sense of the details ( the poster on the window, the things on the folding table, etc)

This photo really impresses me!

ciao,
giambattista



Escribano -> RE: My photo of the week 29 (Jan. 31 2012 21:53:58)

I am rediscovering some basic rules again, or maybe I never really used them before. Light, composition and technique. Almost any subject can be interesting if those are in balance. Perhaps as it is in flamenco with aire, composition and compás?

I am getting ruthlessly critical of my own work, but this one is like in a dream, a classic pose that I did not set up. One rarely comes across these spontaneously and I am not sure I could have set it up if I had wanted to. The train was moving at 100 mph and shaking all over the place. The sunlight was fitful. So although it does not look like it, this was a "decisive moment" and I got lucky.

It was the red blanket that attracted me to the shot and as you and Estevan have commented, Caravaggio and chiaroscuro came to mind when I got it home.



at_leo_87 -> RE: My photo of the week 29 (Jan. 31 2012 22:02:52)

simon, i first saw the picture and was expecting to read about some fancy camera or lens you got but was surprised to see that it's just a cheap point and shoot.

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In the muslim culture it is all about suppressed sexuality


to be fair, so is every other religion

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the consequential insuiniation / paranoia that someone could please himself with looking at images of a person in question.
From there I see girls paniking, fearing that I could show their image around or worse even display it in the internet. As if the world was waiting to drool over photographies, no matter even whether the motive be good looking at all or not in the first place.


i think that applies to women in general, religious or not.



kudo -> RE: My photo of the week 29 (Feb. 1 2012 5:51:11)

just a quick question, im really surprised by how much ruphus knows, the amount he posts in each posts, and how much free time he has. all which makes me think he is either really good and fast at writing and reads a lot and experienced a lot, or he is just an old retired man [:D]



Ruphus -> RE: My photo of the week 29 (Feb. 1 2012 11:09:59)

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ORIGINAL: at_leo_87

to be fair, so is every other religion


Would that mean that dimension and prepared being or rather neglection to reform won´t matter to you?

I am far from defending the backwardness of say orthodox catholics or orthodox jews, but you need to inform yourself about actual differences in the corresponding landscapes. Measures of impact on daily life, conventions and ways of judicative.

- You see how openly the orthodox in Israel are currently opposed and critisized for their retardedness?
Unthinkable in a muslim country.

- You noticed the catholic´s and protestant´s reforms over the past centuries?
Nothing thelike in the muslim world, with exception of the first 4 moderate centuries, before the orthodox took over until today.
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Let´s leave it at that. Don´t want to risk a soldering iron shoved up my butt for mentioning the truth; as just another religious way of dealing with entity.

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ORIGINAL: at_leo_87

i think that applies to women in general, religious or not.


Nonesense.
The European girls I photographed were all proud to have their beauty shown around. ( Including catholic raised Italians.) Actually they couldn´t wait to have their prints duplicated. Some including their esthetic nude pics.


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ORIGINAL: kudo

just a quick question, im really surprised by how much ruphus knows, the amount he posts in each posts, and how much free time he has. all which makes me think he is either really good and fast at writing and reads a lot and experienced a lot, or he is just an old retired man [:D]


Is it biased inability to recognize or accept information that left you entangled with sources petty like my age?
I am around 50, yet attracting amazons that you possibly wouldn´t dare to dream of. [;)]

And I can afford to do what I want, including eliciting selected projects. - Like just today with positive reply from a quality electronics manufacturer who kindly confims interest in me becoming their sole agent for this area.

Can´t tell yet whether this very project will be really sealed in the end, naturally, but sure do appreciate the privilege of being allowed to taking the time and see. May that turn you off, hadji. [:D]

Yours senile, just bubbling around,

Ruphus



XXX -> RE: My photo of the week 29 (Feb. 1 2012 11:44:44)

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ORIGINAL: Ruphus
- You see how openly the orthodox in Israel are currently opposed and critisized for their retardedness?
Unthinkable in a muslim country.


The availability of criticism does not change anything in terms of actions.

Oh and Kudo.... Ruphus does not need to be old, or have experience or knowledge or even a job. He has money.



Escribano -> RE: My photo of the week 29 (Feb. 1 2012 11:47:15)

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i think that applies to women in general, religious or not.


I think that depends on the women. There are a significant proportion over here who don't care what they look like in photos on a Saturday night. Maybe when they have sobered up.





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Arash -> RE: My photo of the week 29 (Feb. 1 2012 11:55:26)

Well, i was born in a "muslim" country and have first hand experince.
First let me tell you that those Mullahs are all motherf.ckers and just use "islam" to be in power and make money. so f.ckem all.

But, my grand parents were muslims, they prayed, and my grandma always wearing a black chador in public etc..... but suppression?...no way, she was the BOSS in the house and my grandpa was just there to make money and give it to the familly [:D], actually he was the supressed one,

I personally am not religious, because my knowledge about the Universe, Science, etc. just tells me that that God has better things to do than come to earth and talk to someone and make him a prophet..

But at the same time i respect all religios people and in fact i think many of them are better people than many atheists, because they fear punishment and so they behave much better and try to do only good things.
Of course we also have those Mullahs and those Bishops who like to have sex with little boys...but honestly , most religious people i have met were good people



Ron.M -> RE: My photo of the week 29 (Feb. 1 2012 12:11:42)

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my grandpa was just there to make money and give it to the familly , actually he was the supressed one,


Poor soul....and you threw his beloved radio over the balcony and smashed it to pieces....tsk tsk

Bad boy. Sell your guitar and get thee to the Hajj[:D]

cheers,

Ron



Ruphus -> RE: My photo of the week 29 (Feb. 1 2012 13:25:22)

A dear post, Arash. It made me smile and sympathize.

Except of:
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ORIGINAL: Arash

i think many of them are better people than many atheists, because they fear punishment and so they behave much better and try to do only good things.
Of course we also have those Mullahs and those Bishops who like to have sex with little boys...but honestly , most religious people i have met were good people


Did you experience those people closely and over a longer period of time? Left them alone in your place for a while? Lent them cash? Gave them authority with something?


It would probably take a long night, maybe one or two bottles of good grape juice and possibly the exchange of scientifical literature and reports.

Carving out what the functional difference is between inner evaluation instance and external one. The difference between ethics and moral. The difference between sincerity and hypocricy. The difference between empathy and pretention inherent to altruism.
And finally a comparison of crime statistics of religious and secular societies.

There is a saying, going roughly like this: "There are good and bad among religious and agnostic people, but it takes religion in the first place for good people to do bad things."

There is no good in turning away from an already overly demanding entity.
- Just like you wouldn´t want your car mechanic to be a homeopath in the first place, would you.

Deniz,

Thank you for your witty appreciation of contents. [8D]
Don´t stumble over yourself. It isn´t really that much of money, as the vast of it was stolen by mentality phenomenons discussed above.
-

Ok; stupid old me should better shut up.

Ruphus



at_leo_87 -> RE: My photo of the week 29 (Feb. 1 2012 14:01:55)

ruphus, this is what you originally stated.

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In the muslim culture it is all about suppressed sexuality


that's just unfair to point out only muslims.

let's just do a quick comparison: muslim leaders are allowed to have wifes and have sex with them as much as they want to. and basically anything is allowed except for doing in the butt (so have no fear of getting anything shoved up there.)

priests, on the other hand, are not allowed any relationship or sex and therefore resort to molesting little boys. also, sex then would only be for child making.

so why point out only muslims?

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Nonesense.
The European girls I photographed were all proud to have their beauty shown around. ( Including catholic raised Italians.) Actually they couldn´t wait to have their prints duplicated. Some including their esthetic nude pics.


so all european girls would be okay with their pictures taking candidly? what about american girls? i know american girls that get creeped out when random people take their pictures. so what's your logic here?



Arash -> RE: My photo of the week 29 (Feb. 1 2012 14:03:36)

Ron, that was the other Grandpa [;)]


Ruphus,

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Did you experience those people closely and over a longer period of time? Left them alone in your place for a while? Lent them cash? Gave them authority with somethin


yes, for many years.
and almost all of my experience was positiv.
i would say those were "real" muslims,,,,or muslims who only picked up the good things from their Koran ;) ? .-.i don't know...

ok, seams like you had some bad experience and therefore are pesimistic?
thats understandable...but i still would say that it has nothing to do with their religion....they probably were not even real religious people but some who pretend to be religious? stealing money is not religious....



Escribano -> RE: My photo of the week 29 (Feb. 1 2012 14:30:14)

Seems my shot has created more debate than usual and an interesting one at that, about the role of women, different cultures and religion. I must take some more.

I guess Henri Cartier-Bresson faced the same reactions?



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at_leo_87 -> RE: My photo of the week 29 (Feb. 1 2012 14:58:24)

to ruphus,
i guess my point is that religion didn't need to be brought up in this discussion at all. and especially any specific religion.

whether or not a person is comfortable with having their picture taken can be completely independent of their religious beliefs.

i guess it's just in trend to pick on muslims right now.



mezzo -> RE: My photo of the week 29 (Feb. 1 2012 15:07:28)

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Henri Cartier-Bresson

guess the mexicans prostitute's in the 30's were somehow scandalous.



found this one. All natural not like today w/ massive silicon inside



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