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Anders Eliasson -> Number 93 a cedar top hybrid with cypress backs and sides (Jan. 21 2012 20:13:51)

I just wanted to show one of the more rare guitars.
A hybrid, with a 7 piece fan which is angled more than my flamenco pattern, 2 closing struts and a 5mm deeper body. The bridge and setup is flamenco.
Soundboard is cedar and backs and sides are cypress. The guitar is sold.
I like these Blanca hybrids especially with cedar top. They are loud and easy going, lyrical and relaxing. A deeper voice, a bit more sustain, but still suitable for flamenco.
My first guitar will always be a flamenca blanca, but as a second guitar, I prefer these over flamenco negras. (just my taste)
There are a few more photos on my blog



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Anders Eliasson -> RE: Number 93 a cedar top hybrid with cypress backs and sides (Jan. 21 2012 20:15:03)

and a closeup



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Arash -> RE: Number 93 a cedar top hybrid with cypress backs and sides (Jan. 21 2012 20:27:50)

nice and lovely guitar as always



kevinitalien -> RE: Number 93 a cedar top hybrid with cypress backs and sides (Jan. 22 2012 8:26:56)

beautiful guitar :)



gbv1158 -> RE: Number 93 a cedar top hybrid with cypress backs and sides (Jan. 22 2012 9:05:08)

I think it's really interesting a blanca with cedar top ......and as usual .....:-) BEAUTIFUL guitar!


.....little question : in this particular case, would pegs head have some significance in terms of sound quality?

ciao,
giambattista



Tomrocker -> RE: Number 93 a cedar top hybrid with cypress backs and sides (Jan. 22 2012 9:43:26)

Nice guitar Andres.. I was wondering how this guitar sound with a a cedar top? if you upload a small video i'll be happy as usual[;)]



Anders Eliasson -> RE: Number 93 a cedar top hybrid with cypress backs and sides (Jan. 22 2012 11:24:30)

Thanks, all of you.[:)]
Giambattista, pegs dont change the sound very much. The attack and response is often a little faster. Not much. The guitar feels a little bit lighter and more vibrant.
Tomrocker, I dont know if I get the time. The guitar´ll be shipped soon.



kozz -> RE: Number 93 a cedar top hybrid with cypress backs and sides (Jan. 23 2012 15:48:12)

Looks beautiful Anders!
I really like the looks from the cedar top with the olive rosette.



Flamingrae -> RE: Number 93 a cedar top hybrid with cypress backs and sides (Jan. 24 2012 1:31:30)

Mmmmm tasty, it's nice to see the combo of the cedar against the cypress - I was always wondering how that might work out with the darker top. Onward......[;)]



Anders Eliasson -> RE: Number 93 a cedar top hybrid with cypress backs and sides (Jan. 24 2012 8:51:13)

I´ve always liked the look of cedar top blancas and I dont mind the natural look of dark front and light back and sides. And I agree witt Kozz. My rosette really comes out on cedar. Its my favorite rosette.

I made one with bloodwood linings, but I think I prefer the one with rosewood linings on number 93. It looks classic and elegant What do you think.



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gbv1158 -> RE: Number 93 a cedar top hybrid with cypress backs and sides (Jan. 24 2012 12:37:37)

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the one with rosewood linings on number 93. It looks classic and elegant What do you think.
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true, but also with the Bloodwood .... looks...... "muy CALIENTE flamenco" :-)

ciao
giambattista

help!: please who can and knows how to do, take what I wrote in this post aut of
"quote" ! thanks a lot



orsonw -> RE: Number 93 a cedar top hybrid with cypress backs and sides (Jan. 24 2012 16:45:51)

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I made one with bloodwood linings, but I think I prefer the one with rosewood linings on number 93. It looks classic and elegant What do you think.


I like both, I agree that your rosette looks good against a cedar top.
I prefer the elegance of the rosewood but the bloodwood is more flamenco- it breaks the Danish Jante law!

PS I think this guitar number 93 is one of your best looking. I look forward to the day I may actually meet one of your guitars and try it out.



Anders Eliasson -> RE: Number 93 a cedar top hybrid with cypress backs and sides (Jan. 25 2012 7:33:36)

Thanks Orson
Its funny how many builders say that natural color cedar top blancas look wrong and that the clients dont want them.
I´ve posted photos here of 2 natural color blancas with cedar tops and both have been described as my prettiest guitars...... Its been good for me to post photos here.



Flamingrae -> RE: Number 93 a cedar top hybrid with cypress backs and sides (Jan. 25 2012 13:24:11)

Just a thought, but you could maybe compensate the colour difference a bit by using FP of two different colours. Lighter for the front and darker for the back and sides. Maybe you do that already? Then again, thats only if this is an issue for someone. Why try and hide the natural colour contrasts - let them speak.
BTW - the bloodwood has a certain something (rosette) even if the other looks more classic.[&:]



FullMetalGuitarist -> RE: Number 93 a cedar top hybrid with cypress backs and sides (Jan. 25 2012 14:50:58)

I like the red lines in the rosette , very reach and live.

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I prefer these over flamenco negras


I got a negra but never had a chance to play on a Ceder-top blanca.
Because the top is more dominant then the back and sides , it should sound more classical rather then a negra (especially with 7 braces) , shouldn't it?

Over all , how do you find the difference in sound between these two ?

p.s I once heard that a Ceder top is "faster" in playing then Spruce , have you felt any difference?



odinz -> RE: Number 93 a cedar top hybrid with cypress backs and sides (Jan. 25 2012 15:25:02)

Anders.... That is so beautiful..

The rosette pops out really nice, and the guitar looks very natural beautiful.

Its almost as if you went out in the the woods and harvested the guitar there..
Just natural perfection.


I think I want one of these! are you booked up for something like nr 102-107 yet? [:D]


Seriously though Anders, I went through alot of pictures of your guitars, they have evolved so much, true artistry!

Im also really in love with your aestethic sense, it truly makes my heart beat.



kozz -> RE: Number 93 a cedar top hybrid with cypress backs and sides (Jan. 25 2012 15:45:44)

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I made one with bloodwood linings, but I think I prefer the one with rosewood linings on number 93. It looks classic and elegant What do you think.

I prefer the pinky one from your website.
That guitar really did sound very nice, although the back-looks of the guitar was a little bit overwhelming.

I think some green in it will look nice.



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Anders Eliasson -> RE: Number 93 a cedar top hybrid with cypress backs and sides (Jan. 26 2012 7:45:36)

Yes, the pink one has its charm. Very ladylike.

Odinz, thanks for your kind words. I´m not booked up. With the economical situation we have in Europe, I´m happy to have work.

Fullmetal.
I dont agree with your thoughts about cedar versus spruce. Cedar can be very flamenco. Its more in the work than anything. This guitar has its slightly classical sound because of a bigger body and a bracing system that puts more tension on the top. 7 braces is not more classical than 5 braces. Its all about the angle and how you work the braces. There are many very flamenco sounding guitars out there.
This guitar has its flamenco sound from its flamenco bridge which is lighter than a classical bridge, and partly from the cypress backs and sides which is lighter than rosewood and gives the guitar a faster response and a faster decay.

Basically I´ll say that this guitar is a good example on how close the classical and the flamenco guitar is related. If you dont want an extremely flamenco or classical sounding guitar, then you have the option of a Spanish guitar, the mother of both. Many of the ealier Classical guitars in the style of Torres work very well for flamenco if the bridge is small and the setup is flamenco.

In the end, its all in the hands of the builder. You have certain factors like wood, size and bracing and this you mix into what you want.



FullMetalGuitarist -> RE: Number 93 a cedar top hybrid with cypress backs and sides (Jan. 26 2012 16:32:57)

I see. . . .
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I dont agree with your thoughts about cedar versus spruce

Im not a pro in order to write my thoughts , just wrote what I hear from people.



Anders Eliasson -> RE: Number 93 a cedar top hybrid with cypress backs and sides (Jan. 27 2012 7:51:04)

There´s a lot of blurry talking about tonewoods out there. Cedar and spruce are both top notch woods for soundboards. They sound slightly different, but the main thing is the builder. Cedar top flamencos can be very bright and there´s no reason to consider cedar to be less flamenco. Look at it this way: In the classical guitar world you dont consider cedar being more classical than spruce or visa versa.



mrMagenta -> RE: Number 93 a cedar top hybrid with cypress backs and sides (Jan. 28 2012 14:03:17)

Wow Anders! What a beautiful guitar! The different wood colors all go very well together. Sublime



Tomrocker -> RE: Number 93 a cedar top hybrid with cypress backs and sides (Jan. 28 2012 15:20:28)

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Seriously though Anders, I went through alot of pictures of your guitars, they have evolved so much, true artistry!

Im also really in love with your aestethic sense, it truly makes my heart beat.


Pure Poetry and so true. We are in two Odinz.. No i beleive that we are in so many[;)] Ole' Andres, thumbs up;))



Anders Eliasson -> RE: Number 93 a cedar top hybrid with cypress backs and sides (Jan. 28 2012 17:51:44)

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Wow Anders! What a beautiful guitar! The different wood colors all go very well together. Sublime


Thanks a lot Zoran
What I did on this one, was to find Rosewood that wasnt to dark. The cedar is very brown and I´ve tried to keep this brown feeling all over. The headstock and the bridge arent very dark either. In my eyes, it gives a feeling of the parts melting together. A lot clients want max contrast and it has its charm especially on a natural colored spruce top blanca, but a softer contrast makes everything come together in a very nice way.



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