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Stu -> Accompanist rates (Jan. 21 2012 10:38:09)

Hola! I wondered.if anyone could share....what its the hourly rate for a flamenco guitarist accompanying dance classes?

Thanks




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Rmn -> RE: Accompanist rates (Jan. 21 2012 17:45:20)

depends where you are.

here in sevilla it's around 6 euro an hour. i know guitarists with a lifetime of flamenco experience who earn that as well.




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Brendan -> RE: Accompanist rates (Jan. 21 2012 22:43:03)

According to Wikipedia, the minimum wage in Spain is €4.26




Rmn -> RE: Accompanist rates (Jan. 21 2012 23:06:58)

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yea spain your expected to get nothing or nearly nothing ay, is that because the dance teachers are just really good and you can learn so much from them


no. there is just little money




Ricardo -> RE: Accompanist rates (Jan. 21 2012 23:53:41)

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ORIGINAL: Rmn

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yea spain your expected to get nothing or nearly nothing ay, is that because the dance teachers are just really good and you can learn so much from them


no. there is just little money


A percentage of the class tuition would be fair. Smaller classes with get you much less then larger classes.




HolyEvil -> RE: Accompanist rates (Jan. 22 2012 9:52:04)

A school here pays 50 for a class.. about 1.5-2 hrs worth of time.




Florian -> RE: Accompanist rates (Jan. 22 2012 14:10:05)

yeah, here i get 50 for 2 hours.....even if they only call me in for one hour they still pay me minimum 50....cause its not worth driving all the way there for 25




duende -> RE: Accompanist rates (Jan. 22 2012 15:45:56)

Nothing[:)]




Graham_B -> RE: Accompanist rates (Jan. 22 2012 18:24:45)

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Nothing [:)]


Seems to be the going rate around here as well [:)]




Stu -> RE: Accompanist rates (Jan. 22 2012 20:19:06)

thanks for you replies,

I actually have been playing for the class for next to nothing.

it was a couple of hrs on a thursday and i was happy to start and just learn and i took that as payment. I enojyed it so much and was learning so much that cash was not really on my mind. the teacher would organise a cash collection for me every term which was great.

now however the classes have doubled in size, theres an extra one on saturday and the college want to set up another class.

so I have obviously said now I must be paid and was wondering what i would be able to demand. However since my original post my dancer said the college have a set accompanists rate as they often have pianists for ballet classes etc..

so hopefully it'll be decent




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Florian -> RE: Accompanist rates (Jan. 23 2012 4:29:31)

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Nothing


well for about the first 5 years of accompanying classes i got nothing either cause i was learning how to and they were helping me




Tomrocker -> RE: Accompanist rates (Jan. 23 2012 10:10:24)

50 Euros in Milan, Italy per hour. But there are really few schools and few good guitarists which make it really a hard to get kind of thing[:)]




Ricardo -> RE: Accompanist rates (Jan. 23 2012 16:30:06)

Forgot to add that it really matters what your level is and the level of the teacher. Not so much the class level per say. If you are in a position that you are making mistakes with tempo for example, then you are not really helping and should actually be PAYING to be in the class. If you are at more or less same level as the student dancers there, you are lucky you are in there for free learning from a good teacher. If you and the dancer instructor are at the same level, be it both amature, semi pro, or totally pro, then you should be getting paid in some way or another. I don't really play for classes anymore, but I do special favors for top teachers....often I get taking out for food and beer and that works for me.

Ricardo




Stu -> RE: Accompanist rates (Jan. 23 2012 21:11:11)

interesting info ricardo.

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If you and the dancer instructor are at the same level, be it both amature, semi pro, or totally pro, then you should be getting paid in some way or another.


I would say im a higher level than the students and experience wise, a lower level than the teacher. shes been teaching for 20 years and I've been playing flamenco 8 ish and only playing for her classes for 2 maybe..

thats why at the start i was just happy to be allowed to be in there learning/watching and soaking it all up... I would've felt odd taking money in what was basically an apprentiship.

now however things are different... i admit i still have huge blank areas in my knowledge but what i do know and what i play, i am pretty tight on. the rare time I ever make a tempo mistake is when I get bored and drift[&:][:D]

usually when the hot dancers are off sick

[:D]




Stu -> RE: Accompanist rates (Jan. 23 2012 21:13:34)

Also, off topic. Flo!! one of my dancers is from Oz and says she know you!




Florian -> RE: Accompanist rates (Jan. 23 2012 22:24:52)

serious ? small world... whats her name ?




veet -> RE: Accompanist rates (Jan. 25 2012 23:03:20)

For me it's based on tips, $3 per head per class.




Stu -> RE: Accompanist rates (Jan. 25 2012 23:15:31)

hey veet! whats cooking man? sanlucar this year?




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