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guido -> RE: Enrique de Melchor has passed away (Jan. 4 2012 23:31:27)

Another sad news. Looked at him in Rito y Geografia del Toque over and over again, esp. the b+w movies. Such a fine and nice player, tradition and nice melodies. RIP[&o]




Dedos -> RE: Enrique de Melchor has passed away (Jan. 7 2012 21:30:02)

Something to think about...what did they all have in common...what, besides playing the guitar, loving flamenco, drinking water, wearing shoes....you get the idea....what was the other common thread?

They all smoked.

You don't have to smoke to play better. Sabicas stopped, if you smoke, you can too.
We're all dreading the day that our MVP succumbs to this vice, but he can't stop...
They will all tell you "Tienes que morir de algo..." Try something more original....

Good luck trying to stop.




Ricardo -> RE: Enrique de Melchor has passed away (Jan. 7 2012 23:16:33)

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Something to think about...what did they all have in common...what, besides playing the guitar, loving flamenco, drinking water, wearing shoes....you get the idea....what was the other common thread?


cocaine

sorry if that is like a big taboo or whatever, and of course it is private info, but it would be foolish to deny it is a problem in flamenco community and has been for long time.




rombsix -> RE: Enrique de Melchor has passed away (Jan. 8 2012 3:07:09)

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cocaine

sorry if that is like a big taboo or whatever, and of course it is private info, but it would be foolish to deny it is a problem in flamenco community and has been for long time.


We're lucky flamencos' hearts seem to be staying in compas...




Paul Magnussen -> RE: Enrique de Melchor has passed away (Jan. 8 2012 16:31:17)

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Something to think about...what did they all have in common...what, besides playing the guitar, loving flamenco, drinking water, wearing shoes....you get the idea....what was the other common thread?


Eating crap food in restaurants while on tour? Even “good” restaurants cook with vegetable oils such as canola, which are touted as “healthy” but in fact are the reverse:

http://www.westonaprice.org/know-your-fats/the-great-con-ola
http://www.westonaprice.org/know-your-fats/the-oiling-of-america




kudo -> RE: Enrique de Melchor has passed away (Jan. 8 2012 17:54:12)

Tienes que morir de algo , that is just an excuse for them to not stop . You can die just like that for no reason. Even if you are perfectly healthy




rombsix -> RE: Enrique de Melchor has passed away (Jan. 8 2012 18:34:31)

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You can die just like that for no reason. Even if you are perfectly healthy


Indeed, but odds are higher you will die earlier when you are a heavy smoker / cocaine user.




Richard Jernigan -> RE: Enrique de Melchor has passed away (Jan. 9 2012 18:37:52)

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ORIGINAL: rombsix
Indeed, but odds are higher you will die earlier when you are a heavy smoker / cocaine user.


I've read several studies indicating most people are pretty poor at estimating the odds, or responding to them.

My great-uncle, Custis Lee Jernigan (named after his cousin, Robert E. Lee's only son) was a chain smoker. He was 75 in the early 1950s when we picked him up in Mississippi and took him to Texas to see my grandfather for the first time in forty-odd years.

Sharing the back seat of the car with him as he lit one cigarette after another, I asked him, "Uncle Tuss, did you always smoke so much?"

"I've smoked two packs of Camel cigarettes every day since they came into the stores," he replied. "Before that, when I was a young man, I had a boy to follow me around, rolling cigarettes, but I gave it up as an affectation."

He lived in robust good health until he was 96, still smoking two packs of Camels per day. One Saturday he asked his eldest son to assemble all the other children after church the next day.

"Why is that," the son asked.

"I think I'm going to die," said Uncle Tuss.

After the party on Sunday afternoon, he took to his bed and died before noon on Monday. I never knew the exact cause of death. Maybe no one else did, either.

It's events like this that distract people from the odds.

I started smoking when I was 16, before the connection between smoking and lung cancer was widely publicized. I quit when I was 28, because I didn't like the way it made me feel. About that time, the cancer connection began to be publicized. Other ill effects from smoking seem not to be publicized so much in the USA.

Ill effects from using cocaine, evident among some of my acquaintance in the 1970s-1980s, seem not to be publicized at all in the USA. In Austin and other centers of the 1960s counter culture a popular movement to warn of the dangers of methamphetamine sprang up in the early 1970s. Graffiti everywhere anounced, "Speed kills."

Unsuccessful efforts to stamp out entirely the use of methamphetamine and cocaine get a lot more time on the TV than warnings of the ill effects.

These unsuccessful efforts keep the price of cocaine very high, funneling billions of dollars into the pockets of Mexican cartels every year. The violent response of the cartels to the Mexican government's attempts to suppress them threatens to destabilize the country.

RNJ




Arash -> RE: Enrique de Melchor has passed away (Jan. 9 2012 18:46:50)

That story about your great uncle was somehow moving.




Richard Jernigan -> RE: Enrique de Melchor has passed away (Jan. 9 2012 19:06:47)

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ORIGINAL: Arash

That story about your great uncle was somehow moving.


He was full of life, wit and generosity right up to the end. Two weeks before he died he sent my grandfather a model of the type of windmill that dots the landscape throughout the southern and southwestern USA. These windmills pump water from wells into troughs where cattle can drink.

Uncle Tuss had carved all the intricate pieces of the model from wood and assembled them using bits of wire to hold them together. The model looked very realistic and worked in every respect, except for actually pumping water.

When my grandfather commented on the amount of work the model took, Tuss replied, "You know me. I just never got used to being idle after I turned the farms over to the boys."

RNJ




kudo -> RE: Enrique de Melchor has passed away (Jan. 9 2012 21:22:07)

I just started serisouly listening to Enrique de Melchor and I have to say that I really love his libre toque stuff and the fandangos with PDL , JUST AWESOME!!




cathulu -> RE: Enrique de Melchor has passed away (Jan. 10 2012 3:54:55)

Sad, all these deaths. Will miss Moraito in particular - i could understand him for some reason.

Is coke really that bad for cancer?




JWP -> RE: Enrique de Melchor has passed away (Jan. 22 2012 10:19:53)

Hy guys,

Only just heard about Enrique and I think it's very sad.

To me he was my absolute favorite player for Solea. He had a very distinctive sound and very nice falseta's.

Absolutely one of the great!

Hear his opening falseta

JW




KMMI77 -> RE: Enrique de Melchor has passed away (Jan. 22 2012 11:23:32)

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He lived in robust good health until he was 96, still smoking two packs of Camels per day.


On christmas day this year, my cousins daughter was given the latest version of the guinness book of records. I was looking through it with her and we happened to come across the oldest person. And there he was with a cigarette in his mouth. The comment read something like, despite his love of smoking....etc

My grandfather passed away at age 86 from of a sudden heart attack. He smoked heavily since he was 12. Some smokers seem to be able to handle it pretty well.

Now we have mobile phone radiation and countless chemicals in our food. Not to mention intensifying digital signals interfering with our electro chemical make up. I wonder about their effects in the future? I wouldn't be surprised if smoking ends up looking tame in comparison.




orsonw -> RE: Enrique de Melchor has passed away (Jan. 22 2012 11:54:17)

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To me he was my absolute favorite player for Solea






Florian -> RE: Enrique de Melchor has passed away (Jan. 22 2012 14:14:04)

that's very sad news, very sorry to hear ... at least hes immortalized forever in flamenco




jg7238 -> RE: Enrique de Melchor has passed away (Mar. 22 2012 18:03:56)





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