Son of Tomatito in Casa Patas (Full Version)

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Arash -> Son of Tomatito in Casa Patas (Dec. 22 2011 17:15:58)





Rmn -> RE: Son of Tomatito in Casa Patas (Dec. 22 2011 17:21:01)

does anybody know who is the guy on the right? he has been touring with tomatito. i first thought that might be his son as well. no se




Arash -> RE: Son of Tomatito in Casa Patas (Dec. 22 2011 17:35:38)

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ORIGINAL: Rmn

does anybody know who is the guy on the right? he has been touring with tomatito. i first thought that might be his son as well. no se


"El Cristi" (Cristobal Santiago Fernández) ,
the nephew of Tomatito




Mark2 -> RE: Son of Tomatito in Casa Patas (Dec. 22 2011 19:00:48)

too bad the cajon player is not louder[:D]




rombsix -> RE: Son of Tomatito in Casa Patas (Dec. 22 2011 19:42:01)

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too bad the cajon player is not louder


Exactly man! [:@]




beno -> RE: Son of Tomatito in Casa Patas (Dec. 22 2011 19:42:54)

wow! That guy really can play! Even if it's the way it's supposed to be as the son of a legend.




ToddK -> RE: Son of Tomatito in Casa Patas (Dec. 22 2011 20:12:48)

Too bad you cant really hear him play in that clip.

Everybody else is alot louder than he is.




rombsix -> RE: Son of Tomatito in Casa Patas (Dec. 22 2011 20:35:29)

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=146676&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=tomatito%2Chijo&tmode=&smode=&s=#146676





kudo -> RE: Son of Tomatito in Casa Patas (Dec. 22 2011 22:46:12)

wow , i love that rondena por bulerias video, nice and short!




Ramirez -> RE: Son of Tomatito in Casa Patas (Dec. 23 2011 12:02:17)

Nice shirts.




kikkoman -> RE: Son of Tomatito in Casa Patas (Dec. 23 2011 17:50:20)

the paco de lucia fashion sense is coming back




aeolus -> RE: Son of Tomatito in Casa Patas (Dec. 18 2013 20:48:18)

Jeez he let PdL sign his Rayes. Well at least it should add 100 pesetas to it's
value.




tele -> RE: Son of Tomatito in Casa Patas (Dec. 18 2013 22:06:31)

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ORIGINAL: aeolus

Jeez he let PdL sign his Rayes.


Looks like a conde hermanos guitar to me... I have noticed quite a few famous guitarists have paco's signature on their guitars




aeolus -> RE: Son of Tomatito in Casa Patas (Dec. 18 2013 22:11:36)

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Looks like a conde hermanos guitar to me... I have noticed quite a few famous guitarists have paco's signature on their guitars


Check the rosette




mark indigo -> RE: Son of Tomatito in Casa Patas (Dec. 18 2013 23:10:20)

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Looks like a conde hermanos guitar to me... I have noticed quite a few famous guitarists have paco's signature on their guitars

Check the rosette


check the headstock




aeolus -> RE: Son of Tomatito in Casa Patas (Dec. 19 2013 10:45:45)

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check the headstock


Right! That particular rosette resembles the one on VA's Reyes.





tele -> RE: Son of Tomatito in Casa Patas (Dec. 19 2013 11:28:30)

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ORIGINAL: aeolus

quote:

check the headstock


Right! That particular rosette resembles the one on VA's Reyes.



I don't see the resemblance, but whatever...




aeolus -> RE: Son of Tomatito in Casa Patas (Dec. 19 2013 12:52:59)

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I don't see the resemblance, but whatever...


to belabor a point...

Conde:


Reyes:


But the give away was the orange color that I should have noticed first.

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tele -> RE: Son of Tomatito in Casa Patas (Dec. 19 2013 13:53:36)

I still don't see the resemblance[;)]




Arash -> RE: Son of Tomatito in Casa Patas (Dec. 19 2013 14:27:36)

bumping a 2 years old thread just to say that PdLs signature ruined the guitar (oh wait , its not a Reyes but a Conde, so it doesn't matter lol)

btw, if you really need to make the Reyes/Rosette/whatever point, here is the right video for you [:D]





aeolus -> RE: Son of Tomatito in Casa Patas (Dec. 19 2013 14:42:03)

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its not a Reyes but a Conde, so it doesn't matter lol)


Here in the US of A a Reyes will sell for twice what a Conde will. Glad PdL didn't write on that one. ;-)

They really should identify hijo by his real name or whatever he takes as a stage name.




Arash -> RE: Son of Tomatito in Casa Patas (Dec. 19 2013 15:34:00)

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ORIGINAL: aeolus

quote:

its not a Reyes but a Conde, so it doesn't matter lol)


Here in the US of A a Reyes will sell for twice what a Conde will. Glad PdL didn't write on that one. ;-)



In Spain amoung gypsies things are a bit different,,,, a Conde without PdL signature on top and Tomate signature on buttom (or viceversa if you prefer tomate ;), without lot of scratches, dings and dongs is worthless piece of never played and dead museum piece of nice looking wood for collectors who can't play and no one buys it.
Those guitars end up in vitrines, for tourists.

[:D]

oh man, all these ruined 100 pesetas guitars ...... [:D]









aeolus -> RE: Son of Tomatito in Casa Patas (Dec. 19 2013 16:03:32)

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In Spain amoung gypsies things are a bit different,,,,


Hijo looks like he might be a gypsy with brown skin while papa...?
Maybe hijo's mother is a gypsy.



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Arash -> RE: Son of Tomatito in Casa Patas (Dec. 19 2013 16:12:19)

is this the rosette theory which you are now applying on skin color ?[:D]




aeolus -> RE: Son of Tomatito in Casa Patas (Dec. 19 2013 16:22:08)

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is this the rosette theory which you are now applying on skin color ?


If hijo's parents are Spanish then Tomatito's offspring is not going to have brown skin unless...

Not trying to stir the pot but I find hijo and his fathers interaction on the video in the Conde shop most appealing and would like to know more about them.


Edit: from Wiki
José Fernández Torres, known as Tomatito (born Almería, 1958), is a Spanish Romani flamenco guitarist. Having started his career accompanying famed flamenco singer Camarón de la Isla

So a gypsy and having been born and raised on the Texas/Mexican border, I can say that at my high school the boys ranged from white to pale brown to dark brown so speculation is pointless. It is interesting though.




tele -> RE: Son of Tomatito in Casa Patas (Dec. 19 2013 18:31:33)

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ORIGINAL: aeolus

They really should identify hijo by his real name or whatever he takes as a stage name.


JOSÉ `El del Tomate`

Similar to tomatito hijo... [;)]

Sure will be a great guitarist just like other kids of famous flamencos...




aeolus -> RE: Son of Tomatito in Casa Patas (Dec. 19 2013 19:13:24)

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JOSÉ `El del Tomate`




He really looks swarthy here. It is or maybe used to be the Spanish custom to name the boys Jose and then whatever name they would use day to day and the girls Maria Also adding the father's name and then the mother's. A guy could get writers cramp signing his name! But maybe Gypsys don't follow that custom. My mother, proud of her Spanish/Mexican ancestors named her first 3 daughters Marie followed by the name they used and I never knew that until many years later as it was supposed to honor the mother and foster father of Jesus but it was forgotten shortly after baptism I imagine.

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