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tk -> Paco's new DVD (Dec. 12 2011 18:42:16)

Is this the 20 minute DVD in the new PDL package?



I can't believe it is already on youtube if it is.

TK




Doitsujin -> RE: Paco's new DVD (Dec. 12 2011 23:12:34)

oooh I hope its not gone till I get home from work tonight!!!




rombsix -> RE: Paco's new DVD (Dec. 12 2011 23:33:48)

As I don't understand Spanish, I didn't really find it to be much of a pleasure to watch. But that's just me...




Doitsujin -> RE: Paco's new DVD (Dec. 13 2011 0:20:01)

Well,.. its Paco.. I wonder why you need a translation since we heard his words already 1000times forwards and backwards as well as his music.. I doubt that my heart will find much joy in that DVD anyways.. :> There will be nothing new I guess. I think I wont watch this pirated video either... there could be pieces of Luzia included..and I bad luck is the last thing I want right now!! xD




tk -> RE: Paco's new DVD (Dec. 13 2011 0:35:41)

Well isn't this the DVD in the new package or did I misunderstand? If you look at the description of the product it shows the same length as this file and the same title.




rombsix -> RE: Paco's new DVD (Dec. 13 2011 1:43:23)

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Well,.. its Paco.. I wonder why you need a translation since we heard his words already 1000times forwards and backwards as well as his music


Yeah well his music was not going to be new, but I don't think he was going to be saying something identical to stuff he mentioned earlier. And in any case, I'm more interested in footage of him actually playing rather than talking, not to mention it being in a language I don't really understand well. But at least if there were subtitles, it would make more sense rather than just looking at people talk and not getting much of what was being expressed. Plus there are others talking and not just Paco, and the fact that the DVD was made means that there is at least something "different / new" or of value on there...




Doitsujin -> RE: Paco's new DVD (Dec. 13 2011 4:11:30)

yeh understood Romb.

Well, I think the reason for that DVD is that Paco wont do any new significant stuff anymore. He is going to retire completely soon I guess (even if his skills are still incredible). Maybe he publishes one more unique CD with real new stuff and thats it. I think its all about money with this DVD.




Ricardo -> RE: Paco's new DVD (Dec. 13 2011 5:35:26)

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Yeah well his music was not going to be new, but I don't think he was going to be saying something identical to stuff he mentioned earlier. And in any case, I'm more interested in footage of him actually playing rather than talking, not to mention it being in a language I don't really understand well. But at least if there were subtitles, it would make more sense rather than just looking at people talk and not getting much of what was being expressed.


Don't mean to be rude, but you are learning about an art form that is not from your own culture, so trying to pick up on the language might be important. I mean, if I decide to devote time to learing arabic music and then become a guy teaching arabic music to people on line, don't you think it would behoove me to at least learn some freeking arabic????[:D][:D] Or for gods sake if I refuse to learn some arabic, at least not complain about some important arabic musicians talking about their own arabic music....in ARABIC without the subtitles.[:D][:D]




Pimientito -> RE: Paco's new DVD (Dec. 13 2011 9:39:17)

Yes, that is the DVD from the new Paco package....cant believe it's on Youtube already either[8|] The sound is much better on the original though.
The lack of subtitles annoyed me as well. I am a native English speaker but even I need English subtitles for many American movies these days or I dont get a lot of the script. Its because I'm not used to hearing accents from the deep south or city ghettos on a daily basis. My Spanish is pretty good but the lack of subtitles in Spanish on the DVD is to me a production oversight. La Piraña for example is kind of hard to understand and I assume that this set has been produced for the international market and not just for Andalucia.




rombsix -> RE: Paco's new DVD (Dec. 13 2011 13:07:09)

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Don't mean to be rude, but you are learning about an art form that is not from your own culture, so trying to pick up on the language might be important. I mean, if I decide to devote time to learing arabic music and then become a guy teaching arabic music to people on line, don't you think it would behoove me to at least learn some freeking arabic???? Or for gods sake if I refuse to learn some arabic, at least not complain about some important arabic musicians talking about their own arabic music....in ARABIC without the subtitles.


Thank you for the input, Ricardo.

I already speak Arabic, English, and French. However, I found it was just a tiny bit challenging to learn Spanish while being a premedical student preparing for the Medical College Admission Test and simultaneously working on 15 credits of coursework in an atmosphere of continuous competition while trying to keep up with practicing flamenco guitar in a part of the world with no formal teachers then going through medical school, four of the United States Medical Licensing Exams, and traveling to the USA for clinical experience, not to mention a master's degree in basic neuroscience with 30 credits of coursework and thesis preparation plus endless hours of lab work (while also still laboring to keep flamenco guitar practice going).

But who says that the above takes time, and that the human brain requires a couple of hours of sleep every now and then?

Also - if Mark who has been living in Andalucia for many years expresses preference for subtitles despite him being fluent in Spanish (not to mention being surrounded by the Southern Spanish accent), then I think my complaints are just a WEE bit justified. Still I'm not much of an intellectual, so I don't think I'm allowed to have any input on this matter...




koenie17 -> RE: Paco's new DVD (Dec. 13 2011 15:55:52)

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Don't mean to be rude, but you are learning about an art form that is not from your own culture, so trying to pick up on the language might be important. I mean, if I decide to devote time to learing arabic music and then become a guy teaching arabic music to people on line, don't you think it would behoove me to at least learn some freeking arabic???? Or for gods sake if I refuse to learn some arabic, at least not complain about some important arabic musicians talking about their own arabic music....in ARABIC without the subtitles.


[:D][:D][:D]




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rombsix -> RE: Paco's new DVD (Dec. 13 2011 19:40:30)

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My friend...I know what you need....a hot blooded hispanic girlfriend.....hahaha


Maybe if I end up in the USA soon that might actually materialize. Not many Hispanics in Beirut... [:)]




rogeliocan -> RE: Paco's new DVD (Dec. 14 2011 0:01:18)

I don't think anybody will mind for this video to be up on Youtube as it's all promo for the CD. At times, I have a hard time understanding Paco, he does not pronounce much (for me, being non Spanish) and the fact there is always music in the background.
The beginning talks about when he met this group when they were in their 30s, playing rumba and introduced solea, bulerias...
So I guess these are the same guys that he has been touring with because in the end of the movie it's clear that the CD is ab out his last concert.
I'm not really sure if that he is talking about with the old band, if somebody could tell me.

But at each concert, in every city, all instruments were recorded on separate tracks, and it is Paco that listened to each of them to select the best ones, the best solos, from all concerts, to cut the CD..... and promo about it's Paco who selected, Paco who this, Paco who that... So in the end they end up with a live but edited CD and Paco liked the idea.




tk -> RE: Paco's new DVD (Dec. 14 2011 5:02:00)

Here is the rest of the product uploaded by another genius





Richard Jernigan -> RE: Paco's new DVD (Dec. 14 2011 19:47:08)

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ORIGINAL: rumbaking
Ramzi,

My friend...I know what you need....a hot blooded hispanic girlfriend.....hahaha



Ah, yes, the always reliable "bedtime dictionary". But in Spain I have been told once or twice that it sounds like I learned Spanish in Central America.

"Central America?" I asked. "Where in Central America?"

"Pues...este, en realidad, en México."

In fact I spent as much time as a child and youth in the house of the ranch foreman in South Texas, educated Mexican American people, as I did in my grandparents' house. Their son, two days younger than I, who earned a Masters Degree from Texas A&M, now retired from being the foreman himself, was my best friend during the summers I spent on the ranch. Of the twenty-two families who lived on the ranch, mine was the only one who spoke English at home.

When we were driving from Jerez to Granada a couple of years ago, Larisa had the radio on in the car. We were in Madrid for a few days before heading to Andalucia. I had navigated the tourist stuff OK in Spanish, but it had been 20-odd years since I had heard Spanish on a regular basis. I couldn't understand a word the guy said on the radio.

"Well, I've finally lost it," I thought.

Then, click! like a switch being thrown, everything was suddenly perfectly clear.

When we got to Granada, I carried on a conversation with the nice university student who was working part time at the little nine-room hotel when we arrived.

When we got to the room, Larisa said, with a smile, "You really can speak Spanish!" as though she may have had her doubts about it.

She doesn't speak Spanish, but she's fluent in Italian, Russian, German and English. With her Italian she can often follow a Spanish conversation fairly well.

I still have trouble sometimes with Andaluz. But to my admittedly rusty ear, on the Paco DVD, everyone speaks fairly clearly, in standard Castilian. None of them bite on their consonants like a Madrid TV announcer, but they don't speak impenetrable Andaluz like a lot of flamencos.

RNJ




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