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mcspookster -> Where to buy? (May 12 2005 13:39:45)

Hello.

I am loooking to buy either the Gerardo Nunez or Graf-Martinez method on DVD - possibly even both of them! Problem is I am struggling to find a vendor - I am in the UK so would need PAL format, although I would be mainly playing the DVD's on my PC so if I had to buy NTSC I would do.

Any pointers?

[:-]



frhout -> RE: Where to buy? (May 12 2005 19:05:21)

Try www.graf-martinez.info. It will show you where to find the DVDs, methods and CDs. Try also www.flamenco-classical-guitar.com for the rest.



gshaviv -> RE: Where to buy? (May 12 2005 20:32:18)

As far as the Gerardo Nunez DVD goes, it has two sides, one PAL and one NTSC so you can play it anywhere (I know I have it). So you need not worry where you are getting it from.

I do not know about the graf-martinez DVD, but from their web site it appears that they have different PAL and NTSC releases, so it does matter there you get the right one.

Try flamenco-teacher.com



Ron.M -> RE: Where to buy? (May 12 2005 21:00:14)

NTSC is mainly an issue with your Television set, which can be fussy about what line/frame rate it gets.
DVD's are recorded in an MPEG-2 format, albeit from an NTSC or PAL source.
Computers don't usually have a problem with this...
(The monitor you are looking at right now has a line/frame rate that would make your TV set **** it's pants [:D])
Some older DVD players can be fussy also....
Regional coding is the big issue with a lot of DVD's being played back on domestic DVD players.
Usually something that won't playback on your living room DVD player, will perform quite happily on your computer.
Which makes a complete mockery of the the whole Standards issue IMO.

cheers

Ron



Thomas Whiteley -> RE: Where to buy? (May 13 2005 3:30:16)

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Usually something that won't playback on your living room DVD player, will perform quite happily on your computer.
Which makes a complete mockery of the the whole Standards issue IMO.


Ron, that is so true!

Another fact seems to be that low end DVD players seem to work well with PAL or NTSC formats. The high end players can be a bit iffy. They tend to work with whatever format the box states!



gshaviv -> RE: Where to buy? (May 13 2005 5:16:16)

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Which makes a complete mockery of the the whole Standards issue IMO


Not quite. PAL & NTSC are analog formats and make a difference for analog devices, like your TV.

A computer is a digital device and doesn't care. It decodes the mpeg stream into your display memory. Then if you are using an analog monitor, the computer's display controller will resample that to the monitor frequency. That's why your computer doesn't care.

quote:

DVD's are recorded in an MPEG-2 format, albeit from an NTSC or PAL source.


The MPEG2 stream can be recorded in NTSC or PAL. In each case the stream is encoded at a different frame rate and resolution to match the format.

quote:

ow end DVD players seem to work well with PAL or NTSC


Yeah, strange. I have a $50 Toshiba DVD that outputs NTSC no matter what DVD I put in (PAL or NTSC), meaning the DVD resamples the stream like a computer does. You do see the PAL at lower quality due to this, but you can still see it.

I used to have a $250 Kenwood DVD that couldn't handle PAL DVDs.



mcspookster -> RE: Where to buy? (May 13 2005 13:15:25)

Thanks everyone - I have now ordered the Nunez one - looking forward to getting it, although it's coming from the States so it may take a while.

I am now thinking of starting a UK-based online Flamenco shop! Who thinks this is a good plan?! [8D]



frhout -> RE: Where to buy? (May 13 2005 18:02:48)

Excellent idea. Getting flamenco stuff in Britain is quite difficult, even in London where the 3 traditional shops are getting a bit rusty. Try to keep down the prices though.



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