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Ruphus -> RE: hit and run in China - this world is a sad place (Oct. 19 2011 13:26:05)
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ORIGINAL: nealf
... up here in Canada we had a similar situation a few years ago .....
This is saddening news.
Even in the challenging times of the gold rush there remained a lot of the civility common to that area. Despite own hardship helpfulness and cincerity vastly prevailed.
Typical for areas of northern hemisphere, from the Inuit, over Alaskian, Canadian, Siberian to Scandinavian mentality where rough natural conditions provided traditional culture of solidarity.
I suspect contemporary cultural changes in Canada to be due to intensive immigration of past decades.
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ORIGINAL: ArtZumer
Hmm I find this one of the most thought-provoking to the masses incidents in the last couple of years. Whose to say.
Common denominator should, which allowed a weak link like us to survive yet over millions of years.
The minute thelike not be clear to us anymore, we will be lost.
- Unfortunately, as is in the meantime, taking with us all the higher developed fellow species of this magnificient evolution.
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ORIGINAL: ArtZumer
Although I think naturally we all have that instinct to go help, ...
Soberly / scientifically humans have no instinct. There exist several genetically provided preconditions, none of which however equals wholy conditioning like with instinct.
I just wished common sense would finally realize the fact and let the wishful thinking / romantic idea of human "instinct" aside for good.
In regard of this very example, we are stuffed with precondition of empathic / social capacity from birth, which however need to be entertained and developed to establish. If upbringing however won´t provide necessary conditions, humans can become the most apathic and cruel creature of all.
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ORIGINAL: ArtZumer
... culturally it is very different in China, what's to say we are right in saying that those who stood by are horrible people.
Characteristically provided / humane mind will tell instantly by its very nature.
With such passive stand-by as hypothetically natural attitude we long since wouldn´t be in existance as a species, to start with.
Yes, Far Eastern cultures with their major and misled custom of pretending no emotion / emotional sensitivity represent the worlds peak of detouched and cruel culture.
And who, for a misunderstood conception of tolerance, thought it PC to let such culture be as is in sight of human dealings; should realize that the defenseless animal world at the latest would be definite reason to voice critique and channel retarded cultures towards reconsideration / empathical sensation.
Daily, billions of animals are being finned, skinned, amputated and boiled alive, and no human being of his mind should consider such a needless hell tolerable.
Thoughtlessness and cruelty are no cultural section worth preserving for the sake of some misunderstood, literally stupid sense of political correctness.
Lesser even while nearly all of the worlds big game are being on extinct, with a major part of it due to vanishing in Chinese cooking pots and traditional pharmacies, merely for utterly idiotic superstition ( in the year 20011, still, damnit!), whilst the Chinese government couldn´t care less to produce a number of educational TV-spots to finally end the horrible background and yieldings of their peoples´ crude being.
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ORIGINAL: ArtZumer
Does human life have any innate value?
While evolution has no specific aim other than prevail, life has the innate rational value of foregone efforts and actual ecological contribution.
Hence, the value depending on quantity of a species ( whether idle, on decline or over populating ) and its effects on an ecological system.
From there human beings factually are currently the least valuable and most destructive to the evolution of higher developed species, including itself. ( A paradox, right. Our major cultures of the past 5 millenia have been worshipping paradoxum.)
It is our simplicistic and aribitrary bias that catgorizes value of species by ranking what appears to subjectively ressemble the observer ( as thinking species ) the most, without yet a clue of inherent failure within the arbitrary category.
Science in the meantime is exponentially discovering more and more on unconceived cognition among fellow species on a daily basis. Making startling explorations on cognitive abilities, up from the higher developed species to down to the most "primitive" ones like croaches and mosquitos, and even microbes.
We are about to learn how apart of our ways there exist diverse forms of intelligence, only that the observed species will have gone extinct until we will have remotely comprehended.
Our evolutionary specialisation and means of survival has been reason.
Considering that where there is no empathy there is no reasoning, we may sense the estranging / inhumane path we have went to.
The example in the video being only indicator and tip of the ice berg.
Ruphus
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