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Haydn -> RE: Best way to handle Fakemenco players (Oct. 2 2011 15:55:21)
You forgot option E: convert him! [;)]

rombsix -> RE: Best way to handle Fakemenco players (Oct. 2 2011 16:06:05)
quote: D. Befriend him and forget about my feelings towards Fakemenco and collaborate with him on a couple of Rumbas.... [;)] Don't forget who YOU are: rumba-king. [:D]

RTC -> RE: Best way to handle Fakemenco players (Oct. 2 2011 16:50:17)
I personaly do not have any issues with that style, I realize is not Flamenco and they do know that what they play is not. I enjoy all kinds of music and some of this artist are very talented. I prefer Flamenco and belived that Flamenco players are in a leage of their own. The history, technique, palos, and many other aspects of Flamenco are so unique that it makes it into and art that will never be mastered by and individual player. We had had a list of masterful players and they had left a legacy that future generations will enjoy and appreciate. So I think your option D is appropiate.

XXX -> RE: Best way to handle Fakemenco players (Oct. 2 2011 17:25:04)
quote: ORIGINAL: RTC some of this artist are very talented Talented in business, yes. I would pick D if the Rumbas are somehow cool. Knowing that 99,9% of the fakemenco material is never cool, just ignore him by saying "thanks for the offer".

Sean -> RE: Best way to handle Fakemenco players (Oct. 2 2011 17:56:31)
Just upgrade your guitar case Rumbaking

Sean -> RE: Best way to handle Fakemenco players (Oct. 2 2011 18:02:46)
Hello my fakemenco friend Images are resized automatically to a maximum width of 800px

Sean -> RE: Best way to handle Fakemenco players (Oct. 2 2011 18:04:14)
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Sean -> RE: Best way to handle Fakemenco players (Oct. 2 2011 18:06:51)
This could work pretty good also Images are resized automatically to a maximum width of 800px

Rmn -> RE: Best way to handle Fakemenco players (Oct. 2 2011 18:59:27)
haha

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at_leo_87 -> RE: Best way to handle Fakemenco players (Oct. 2 2011 19:30:42)
it really depends. what's the actual situation? is he a nice guy? open minded? stubborn? arrogant? i recently had an experience with a nuevo flamenco DANCER and just found it easier to avoid him altogether. btw, who came up with this nuevo flamenco term?

Elie -> RE: Best way to handle Fakemenco players (Oct. 2 2011 19:50:37)
I remember Jason Mcguire dealing with them by calling them douchebags

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FredSanford -> RE: Best way to handle Fakemenco players (Oct. 2 2011 23:01:55)
Sabicas was wrong, there are some really crappy guitarists. A lot more than good ones. Being a crappy guitarist isn't a crime, but when you are a crappy guitarist and try and represent yourself as an authority, then I could see how the term douchebag might apply.

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cathulu -> RE: Best way to handle Fakemenco players (Oct. 2 2011 23:39:40)
This is funny stuff all around! The ironic name of the OP and the responses LOL! All we need is Jason to be allowed back! [:D]

rombsix -> RE: Best way to handle Fakemenco players (Oct. 3 2011 0:02:08)
quote: All we need is Jason to be allowed back! Here, here! [:)]

KMMI77 -> RE: Best way to handle Fakemenco players (Oct. 3 2011 0:23:00)
quote: What do you guys think is the best way to handle this? Practice so you can actually play real flamenco well. Put things like greensleeves por bulerias to the side. Just liking pure flamenco is one thing, but learning to play it in a way that competes with other styles and respects the tradition is another. When good flamenco is presented well with dancing, singing and guitar, It would be hard for people to compare it with the last ottmar concert they went to. But when traditional flamenco is performed badly, I'd prefer a "fakemenco" playing something fake but smooth any day.

rombsix -> RE: Best way to handle Fakemenco players (Oct. 3 2011 0:28:44)
quote: Practice so you can actually play real flamenco well. Put things like greensleeves por bulerias to the side. Ouch. [:(]

Paul Magnussen -> RE: Best way to handle Fakemenco players (Oct. 3 2011 0:36:34)
quote: btw, who came up with this nuevo flamenco term? Probably a translation of Ottmar Liebert’s Nouveau Flamenco. http://www.amazon.com/Nouveau-Flamenco-Ottmar-Liebert/dp/B000003YYQ/ref=sr_1_3?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1317602139&sr=1-3

KMMI77 -> RE: Best way to handle Fakemenco players (Oct. 3 2011 0:42:11)
quote: Ouch. I honestly don't mind things like greesleeves por bulerias. And Ramzi i liked your version. But if we are going to talk about watered down flamenco???[:D][8\|]

BarkellWH -> RE: Best way to handle Fakemenco players (Oct. 3 2011 1:59:58)
quote: I remember Jason Mcguire dealing with them by calling them douchebags To call someone a "douchebag" because one does not agree with his playing reveals much more about the person making the epithet than it does about the person playing the guitar: Crude, course, and an unwarranted sense of superiority. There will always be those who are better and those who are worse than one's own talents allow. There is a concept in psychology called "projection," in which one "projects" onto others that which one perceives to be inadequate in one's self. Thus with calling others "douchebags." Cheers, Bill

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ToddK -> RE: Best way to handle Fakemenco players (Oct. 3 2011 5:46:16)
quote: unwarranted sense of superiority. No, i'd say its very warranted. Jason plays circles around the fakers. He has earned the right to call a douchebag a douchebag. Cheers to Jason.

FredSanford -> RE: Best way to handle Fakemenco players (Oct. 3 2011 6:45:26)
quote: No, i'd say its very warranted. Jason plays circles around the fakers. He has earned the right to call a douchebag a douchebag. Cheers to Jason. Who the heck is this Jason guy?

XXX -> RE: Best way to handle Fakemenco players (Oct. 3 2011 8:59:05)
Jason's effort was never to show that these guys are "crappy guitarrists", it was to show how these guys disgrace and offend a whole art form, by labelling their stuff "Flamenco". Nonetheless, low musicianship and low technical abilities often go hand in hand in the Fakemenco genre of course. No need for kitchen-psychology if you knew these two sentences i just wrote... Rumbaking, id really throw away all "arabic" sounding compositions and start with good learning material. I mean seriously, its not doing you any good. It doesnt bring you one step further to the real stuff. If you feel that strong about Fakemenco, it doesnt make you look too good if youre just struggling to get the most basic Alegrias sound right, know what i mean? Just sayin'...

Haithamflamenco -> RE: Best way to handle Fakemenco players (Oct. 3 2011 10:58:32)
quote: Hello my fakemenco friend hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa[:D][:D][:D] Images are resized automatically to a maximum width of 800px

Haithamflamenco -> RE: Best way to handle Fakemenco players (Oct. 3 2011 11:04:37)
take this buleria from me fakemenco hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaa[:D][:D][:D][:D] Images are resized automatically to a maximum width of 800px

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