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Ricardo -> RE: Ricardo (Sep. 1 2011 17:31:18)
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ORIGINAL: Paul Magnussen
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half compas will be discovered in every palo,
Are you sure this isn’t an overstatement? In fandangos and bulerías certainly; but elsewhere are you sure you can distinguish it from laziness and/or sloppiness?
We have discussed it a lot regarding Solea and Buleria por Solea. But Tiento/tango/tanguillo/rumba and of course Taranto when it takes on a 2/4 or 4/4 feel for baile, all have the same type of thing bulerias has. We are more used to in buleria because it is fast and somebody said once buleria was SUPPOSED to be in 12.
And in fact there have been found examples of buleria and fandango quarter compas (extra or less of 3 beat units)....examples of THAT are from Sabicas, Paco de Lucia (La tumbona) and niño miguel (not vinos y caballos, the OTHER buleria he has, and even repeats that out of compas thing on video with palmas!!)
For fandangos I have heard from Manolo Sanlucar (Banderillas estribillo) and lets not even talk about fandango naturales where you have sometimes 14 beat or 10 beat remates to lead in for the cante.
Only palo that we don't see any half compas is with siguiriyas...but instead we have a wide range of tempos and elasticity to deal with. (and as I said before I have not encountered in Alegria, oh but I just remembered some guitar solos use half compas, especially those slow Rosas solos like barrio la viña).
Ricardo
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