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larone -> Forms for Accompanyment?? (Apr. 20 2005 3:59:03)

Hi crew,
Can someone list the forms for when you're playing with a dancer/singer. I'm mainly doing Solea, Alegrias, bulerias, Tangos at the moment and i can't find any web page that can help me. I need to now what goes where and what their names are (ie start middle end Etc) I'm about to start sitting in on dance classes next week so i'm sure i'll find out soon, but if anyone can help me that would be great. [:D] Any audio ideas are welcome. I just don't know what's what..........[&:]

CHEERS and BEERS!
Larone




duende -> RE: Forms for Accompanyment?? (Apr. 20 2005 6:11:56)

I have a solea por baile analysis and Alegrias por baile no analysis for that one though[:(]
but it can be worth a look. The solea is explained and it´s a looong tab to "steal" ideas from.
But it´s NOT very basic playing so it will be pretty hard to play from start to finnish but as i said, get ideas from it.

PM me your E-mail

Henrik




eslastra -> RE: Forms for Accompanyment?? (Apr. 20 2005 9:08:30)

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ORIGINAL: larone

Hi crew,
Can someone list the forms for when you're playing with a dancer/singer. I'm mainly doing Solea, Alegrias, bulerias, Tangos at the moment and i can't find any web page that can help me. I need to now what goes where and what their names are (ie start middle end Etc) I'm about to start sitting in on dance classes next week so i'm sure i'll find out soon, but if anyone can help me that would be great. [:D] Any audio ideas are welcome. I just don't know what's what..........[&:]

CHEERS and BEERS!
Larone



larone,

Unfortunately, there isn't anything in print that I know of that can completely guide you through all the parts of the different dance forms. Dancers can interpret things quite differently from one to another. Are you starting into this on your own or are you going to be playing beside an experienced accompanist? This would be the fastest way to learn the the dances.

I recall this great article on accompanying dance classes from Miguelito's DC Flamenco website. It might have some helpful information for you, though it doesn't exactly answer your main question. It does contain some valuable things to know about from both the teachers' and guitarists' points of view. I'd say everything mentioned in it is quite true in my experience. There's even a photo of Ricardo running someone through the paces [8D]

http://www.dcflamenco.com/dcflamenco/8112003_12132003.shtml

Good luck with the classes [;)]




aloysius -> RE: Forms for Accompanyment?? (Apr. 21 2005 2:30:04)

There is an article on Sal's site at herso.freeservers.com/structure.html which has a fairly good breakdown of Alegrias. It should be noted that the Silencio and Castellano are optional. A typical traditional pattern for Solea is:

1) guitar intro
2) singer's salida
3) dancer's salida (often a few compas of footword and llamada)
4) 1st letra (verse)
5) short falseta and llamada
6) 2nd letra
7) 1st escobilla (still in slow solea time, but the rhythm is doubled up so it may not sound slow)
8) 3rd letra
9) 2nd escobilla (in solea por buleria time)
10) build up
11) bulerias and finish

I hope some for this is helpful.
- Aloysius




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