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brad -> Is this True ? (Jun. 30 2011 16:06:48)
Is this True? a guitar signed by Sabicas ? http://www.mundoanuncio.com/anuncio/guitarra_flamenca_firmada_por_sabicas_1185143303.html The guy who is selling says, is Flamenco guitar from 1982 signed by the very famous flamenco guitarist concertist from all times: Sabicas Yep, What do you think about it ? [8\|] Images are resized automatically to a maximum width of 800px

Ron.M -> RE: Is this True ? (Jun. 30 2011 16:18:06)
12,000 Euros for an un-named guitar with a signature with no proof??? The guy's off his head!! [:D][:D] (PS I've got an old vacuum cleaner personally signed by Hoover...2000 Euros or best offer. [;)]) cheers, Ron

Harry -> RE: Is this True ? (Jun. 30 2011 16:20:13)
I believe in situations like these a picture of Sabicas with the guitar is a must! Perhaps I have been watching too much antiques roadshow

Ramon Amira -> RE: Is this True ? (Jun. 30 2011 19:05:45)
Hey – I've got one signed by Manolo de Huelva. He didn't know how to write, so he signed it with an X. Trust me, it's authentic. I'll let you have it for only $50,000. Ramon

Ron.M -> RE: Is this True ? (Jun. 30 2011 19:12:24)
Well, Prom.. $50,000 sounds fair enough to me and of course I trust you. Is Paypal any good or is it a wire transfer only? BTW is the guitar a really beat up one with no label? All the better as it would make it more authentic IMO. [:D] cheers, Ron

Ramon Amira -> RE: Is this True ? (Jun. 30 2011 19:50:51)
quote: Well, Prom.. $50,000 sounds fair enough to me and of course I trust you. Is Paypal any good or is it a wire transfer only? BTW is the guitar a really beat up one with no label? All the better as it would make it more authentic IMO. cheers, Ron No, no – it's authentic. Really. Manolo gave it to me personally. It's a . . . wait – I'm dusting off the label . . . it begins with an E. . . okay, I can read it now. Yes – it's an Esteban! An authentic Esteban! Forget it – the price just went up. Now I want $100,000! Ramon

Issam -> RE: Is this True ? (Jun. 30 2011 19:52:22)
i got one signed by Paco de Lucia. it cost me $70,000 but i am ready to sell it Just for $5,000 because i am a nice guy just ignore the grammar mistakes. Images are resized automatically to a maximum width of 800px

Escribano -> RE: Is this True ? (Jun. 30 2011 19:53:19)
This appears to his autograph and writing on a photo More italicised and classier than the guitar one. Images are resized automatically to a maximum width of 800px

El Kiko -> RE: Is this True ? (Jun. 30 2011 20:50:22)
Wow what a great place to buy and sell original items ... and I have an authentic Toilet signed by Thomas Crapper 1836-1910.... 100%....still with the smell and everything .......of course the museums want it , but I am also prepared to sell it cheap here....... ( I also have some small birds that are going Cheap ))[:)] Images are resized automatically to a maximum width of 800px

aarongreen -> RE: Is this True ? (Jun. 30 2011 22:22:57)
Im not a handwriting expert but I've seen Sabicas' signature before (at Dennis Koster's place) and that look legit to me. He was pretty much illiterate and his handwriting was not very well developed. aaron

erictjie -> RE: Is this True ? (Jun. 30 2011 23:23:31)
i don't really care if sabica sign the guitar in his dead bed, for me the guitar is worth less now , not in mint condition anymore.

El Kiko -> RE: Is this True ? (Jul. 1 2011 17:37:54)
quote: I've seen Sabicas' signature before well if any one is going to forge anything they would at least look it up to make it the same , as much as possible,.... But thats not the point ...if you went to a dealer with ANYTHING from a famous person the first thing he would ask for is some verification ,,, and if you didn't have it to satisfy him , then ,, could be , could be not ... dunno .... a "maybe " is not worth anything., YOu would also think that instead of just concentrating on the signature you would at least mention something about the guitar , which may or may not be a nice guitar .. but no , zip ....just the sig is of interest cos thats where the money is ...... hmmmm.

C. Vega -> RE: Is this True ? (Jul. 1 2011 19:33:07)
Even if it is genuine, how much can a Sabicas signature possibly be worth on the autograph market? Maybe 25 bucks max on a good day? Outside the pitifully small (in the grand scheme of things) flamenco community, damn few people have ever heard of Sabicas. Add his signature to what appears to be a factory guitar and what do you have? A factory guitar with a $25 autograph on it. Whoopee!!! It's no big deal.

El Kiko -> RE: Is this True ? (Jul. 1 2011 23:05:00)
quote: how much can a Sabicas signature possibly be worth on the autograph market? You are right , I was just searching for PDL autograph picture which you can buy no prob and will not break the bank..not even mine /. The guitar doesnt look like a 1A anything so its a cheap guitar that costs 25 more for the sig.. and of course you cant polish or clean the guitar without devaluing it , a bit , all in all not a great find ......... If anyone wants it contact the seller to get the story , price and guitar type ... me...........outtta here......

Leendert -> RE: Is this True ? (Jul. 2 2011 14:09:37)
On top of it all it looks like the add got posted in march of 2010... I guess the poor guy didn't had any luck selling it......hmmm...wonder why?

turnermoran -> RE: Is this True ? (Aug. 3 2011 7:58:07)
I have to say: compared to Sabicas, Paco's handwriting is INCREDIBLE -as this authentic picture testifies. His playing is not the only thing of super-human machine like perfection. quote: ORIGINAL: Issam i got one signed by Paco de Lucia. it cost me $70,000 but i am ready to sell it Just for $5,000 because i am a nice guy just ignore the grammar mistakes. Images are resized automatically to a maximum width of 800px

Rmn -> RE: Is this True ? (Aug. 3 2011 9:47:27)
hahaha [:D]

Elie -> RE: Is this True ? (Aug. 3 2011 10:08:47)
[8D]

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