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Jayananda -> Granada in November, or Jerez in February? (May 10 2011 6:48:11)

Hey, I need help making a decision...

My flight points expire at the end of the month, so I'm forced to FINALLY book my many times planned and then cancelled trip to Spain!! It's only taken me 13 years or so!

I'm trying to decide between going to Granada for my birthday in November and studying at Carmen de Las Cuevas for a couple of weeks, while taking in the Granada jazz festival...

Or, going to Jerez in February for the festival de Jerez!

I really wanted to go this July for Gerardo's course in Sanlucar, but the timing just ain't gonna work :(

Any locals, or people who've been to those places at those times with any opinions one way or the other? Weather? Quality of festivals? How crowded and expensive at respective times of year? Better city in general? ....whatever

I'm torn....Thoughts and opinions please :)



krichards -> RE: Granada in November, or Jerez in February? (May 10 2011 6:58:14)

Can't comment on the festivals but Carmen de las Cuevas is a pretty safe choice, and Granada is a wonderful place to spend time and learn.



odinz -> RE: Granada in November, or Jerez in February? (May 10 2011 7:12:35)

I cant really comment on the festivals or anything, but I have myself decided to move to Granada, among things i want to see and experience is the alhambra, the cathedral, though i am very interested in architecture[:)]

I think you will get a nice time both places, But i think you should go to the place wich appeals to you the most.
good luck by the way[:D]



Jayananda -> RE: Granada in November, or Jerez in February? (May 10 2011 7:17:31)

Yeah I've been getting the Carmen newsletters for over a decade now! So it's pretty high on my list ....and I've been obsessing about Granada for just as long! I just know this will probably be my one trip for quite a while, so I want to make sure I squeeeeze as much flamenco and culture as I possibly can out of it! ;)



Escribano -> RE: Granada in November, or Jerez in February? (May 10 2011 8:13:22)

You won't get any more flamenco than at the Jerez Festival.



Adam -> RE: Granada in November, or Jerez in February? (May 10 2011 13:43:12)

Given a choice between X and Granada, I would pick Granada ∀X. Including X=Granada.



Estevan -> RE: Granada in November, or Jerez in February? (May 10 2011 20:33:12)

quote:

Given a choice between X and Granada,

(where X is not an abbreviation for Xérès... )

quote:

I would pick Granada ∀X. Including X=Granada.


Aha, so even if you were obliged to choose between Granada and Granada, you'd choose...Granada! [:D]



at_leo_87 -> RE: Granada in November, or Jerez in February? (May 10 2011 21:07:13)

There's so much flamenco to see in Jerez during the festival. You can probably squeeze in 2-3 shows everyday. It can get pretty expensive....
If you want to go to Jerez, you should book everything WAAAY ahead of time, especially hotels and tickets for the big shows.

However, Granada has a certain charm that will make you never want to leave. The food is better and it's a better place to learn. And of course, the Alhambra is there. The people are easier to understand as well... ;)



Jayananda -> RE: Granada in November, or Jerez in February? (May 10 2011 21:37:14)

So do they jack up all of the hotel prices during the festival in Jerez?

Maybe my best option would be to go in Feb, check out the festival for a week and then, before I run out of $ completely, head over to Granada and stay at Carmen for another week or two. It's actually incredibly reasonable to stay in their apartments at Carmen!

Is late Feb/early March a nice time to be in Andalucia?



at_leo_87 -> RE: Granada in November, or Jerez in February? (May 11 2011 1:46:24)

the hotels rates stay fixed, i think. but they fill up fast.
if you're getting an apartment, they'll definitely jack up the price.

get the tickets to the shows you want to see ahead of time, because they'll go fast.

when you get there check out tio zappa and duende copas. their shows start when the main shows of the festival finishes.

on your way to granada, it might be worth it to check out sevilla. there's some really high level flamenco there.

once in granada, the folks at carmen de las cuevas will help you find good places to see flamenco.

don't go to tablao flamenco albayzin. and DO NOT, DO NOT, DO NOT go to raiz y duende. seriously.... i'm so serious. [8|]

i went march-april.
the first week of march was a little drizzly and cold. from the second week on, the weather was pretty perfect.



changue -> RE: Granada in November, or Jerez in February? (May 12 2011 8:32:12)

I wonder if you have considered Jerez in September? I really like the Fiestas de Otono. It usually starts with the Fiesta de Buleria in the Plaza de Toros round about the middle of the month. Then there's a couple of weeks with music in the Plaza de la Asuncion most nights. The penas are open to all comers during this period and the best stuff is usually in the penas, in my experience. You can probably get more info from the Jerez Turismo. The good news is that it is all free - I think local sponsors and the ayuntamiento foot the bill - so you can really sicken yourself with it!

The weather in Jerez in September can be stormy with the occasional flash flood. That said, I've always been comfortable sitting outside in shirtsleeves. In terms of crowds, if somebody really good is on - say, Agujetas - then people start claiming the front seats well before the performance starts, hours, in fact.

I hope this is useful. Very best of luck with your trip. You're definitely doing the right thing.

Changue



Jayananda -> RE: Granada in November, or Jerez in February? (May 21 2011 16:28:57)

Thanks for all of the advice everyone! Yes, September would be great, but I need a bit more time to save up! I think I will wait til February, when I'm totally fried on the Canadian winter and then escape! I'll catch a bit of festival de Jerez and a bit of Granada and C.D.L.C. at a time when it should be relatively tourist free!

Here's hoping nothing impedes my plan this time!! ;)



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