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musicalgrant -> Bracing patterns for flamenco guitars (Mar. 19 2005 20:14:02)

Hi

Can anyone enlighten me as to which is a good bracing pattern?

And where i can find the specifications to make a decent flamenco guitar?

I did a guitar making course a few years ago, and was wondering where to start?

Cheers

Grant




Skai -> RE: Bracing patterns for flamenco guitars (Mar. 20 2005 2:00:39)

I think Anders can give you an excellent answer to that. Good luck with it!




Guest -> RE: Bracing patterns for flamenco guitars (Mar. 20 2005 9:02:40)

Hi Grant

Well a good flamenco bracing pattern is something personal. You can get plans with the information you are looking for.

Barbero plan: www.lmii.com
Santos Hernandez plan: www.madinter.com

I will recommend you to build a copy as a first guitar, and then you can develop your own pattern later on. Both plans work very well. I personally use a pattern derived from Barbero, but it's so personalized, that it's my system.

Good luck
Anders




musicalgrant -> RE: Bracing patterns for flamenco guitars (Mar. 20 2005 18:13:47)

Thanks for that Anders, i had no idea where to look.

Ive got books on making classical and acoustic, but not flamenco.

I will have to invest in some Barbero and Santos Hernandez plans, and yes stick to one or the other as it will be the second guitar that i have built.

Cheers

Grant




Escribano -> RE: Bracing patterns for flamenco guitars (Mar. 20 2005 20:28:07)

Making Master Guitars by Roy Courtnell - £49 all the photos and plans you'll need. You can order 1:1 scale copies from the author
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0709048092/qid%3D1111353872/202-0011409-9623825
With that and Cumpiano you're all set [:D]
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0811806405/qid=1111353985/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_17_1/202-0011409-9623825




musicalgrant -> RE: Bracing patterns for flamenco guitars (Mar. 20 2005 20:49:27)

Thanks simon

I've said them to favourites, have you seen this pattern Before? Looks like fun[8D]

Cheers and thanks again...Ill have to start buying tools and wood and stuff...


Cheers




musicalgrant -> RE: Bracing patterns for flamenco guitars (Mar. 20 2005 23:44:35)

have you guys seen this site?

guitar pattern




musicalgrant -> RE: Bracing patterns for flamenco guitars (Mar. 20 2005 23:49:32)

This one has free patterns too[:)]
free patterns




Armando -> RE: Bracing patterns for flamenco guitars (May 28 2005 14:16:29)

Hello

This is a common question among new starting luthiers. José Ramirez wrote in his book, that he dedicated himself a lot in his earlier years to the development of a new bracing pattern that is superior to the traditional design. The conclusion was, that the sound did not improove at all. This means for me, that the soundboard bracing is just one factor of the whole construction. It's rather the summary of a well construction that leads to a good result than just the bracing pattern. The correct thicknessing of the soundboard related to the stiffness of the wood is maybe even more important. The bracing should only support the soundboard to resist the string tension. It's therefore also important to evaluate the correct thickness of the braces. If the braces are too thick, then it will stiffen the soundboard too much which may result in a weak tone and lack of dynamic.
If the braces are too thin, then it may dome the soundbaord after a certain time due to the stringtension. The sound would probably have strong basses in the beginning but the guitar will develop negatively and it may end up as not playable instrument.
To may opinion it is not possible to say which bracing pattern is best. It depends also what sound is desired in the completeted instrument.




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