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Kevin James Shanahan -> jazz is taking me away (Mar. 19 2011 6:41:37)
I'm working on this tune with a friend on vibes , just stumbled on this , check the scat at 114secs , Flamenco I will keep trying to find you .

Florian -> RE: jazz is taking me away (Mar. 19 2011 9:42:36)
I love it...i think its great !! i am no expert at jazz or anything but i like this..so are you going to scat too ? ALVAL here is very good at this sort of thing

sean65 -> RE: jazz is taking me away (Mar. 19 2011 12:00:17)
Nothing wrong with a musical excursion Kevin. I listen to a lot of Jazz and Latin music. Some people combine all their influences.

vuduchyld -> RE: jazz is taking me away (Mar. 19 2011 19:04:28)
I prefer simple, easy pickin' blues.

rombsix -> RE: jazz is taking me away (Mar. 19 2011 19:27:02)
quote: I'm working on this tune with a friend on vibes , just stumbled on this , check the scat at 114secs , Flamenco I will keep trying to find you . Man, that was awesome! I love the sound of his guitar. Is that a flamenco guitar by any chance? I love those chords - his left hand is KILLER! [:)] What I don't get though is the difference between JAZZ and BOSSA NOVA. This stuff sounds like Bossa Nova to me ... am I way off?

Kevin James Shanahan -> RE: jazz is taking me away (Mar. 19 2011 19:48:04)
I have had a bit of a go at scatting , Ilike it . I have been working on a kind of drone using mongolian throat singing . It sounds really amazing sometimes and others it's kind of like , I don't know what it's kind of like . I will be doing a lot more throat singing practice on the beach before I try and attempt anything public . Yeah romb it is deffinately a latin version I'm not sure either of the exact style but yeah I would call it bosa , he is bosa novarizing jazz standards [:D]. Thx for the vids sean and voodoo , here is another excursion you may have seen .

Kevin James Shanahan -> RE: jazz is taking me away (Mar. 19 2011 19:53:00)
ah while I'm at it , this is one of the most amazing things I have ever seen , I'm talking energy and the cresendo this blows me away every time.

XXX -> RE: jazz is taking me away (Mar. 19 2011 20:06:30)
Short time ago i found a teaching vid by McLaughlin. A lick he was playing there grabbed my attention and after searching the comments to that video i found out what he was playing was the theme from "You know, you know".

Kevin James Shanahan -> RE: jazz is taking me away (Mar. 19 2011 21:03:16)
That would be his konnokol instructional , ta ki ta , ta ki ta , ta ki ta , I had this .learning konnokol basics really helped me understanding rhythm , gateway to rhythm it was called .

chester -> RE: jazz is taking me away (Mar. 19 2011 21:29:45)
Bossa Nova started when Brazilian musicians came to the US (new york in particular) and incorporated those heavy jazz chords with their Brazilian rhythms like samba. That's why they might sound similar to you, but the difference is immense, especially comparing modern jazz to bossa.

HolyEvil -> RE: jazz is taking me away (Mar. 19 2011 21:33:00)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kevin James Shanahan I have had a bit of a go at scatting , Ilike it . I have been working on a kind of drone using mongolian throat singing . It sounds really amazing sometimes and others it's kind of like , I don't know what it's kind of like . I will be doing a lot more throat singing practice on the beach before I try and attempt anything public . throat singing eh.. [:D]

Kevin James Shanahan -> RE: jazz is taking me away (Mar. 19 2011 21:42:24)
funny [:D] I am attempting the overtone variety

Guest -> RE: jazz is taking me away (Mar. 20 2011 1:42:18)
quote: What I don't get though is the difference between JAZZ and BOSSA NOVA. fairly interchangeable though 'bossa nova' is based on 'partido alto' rhythm which is the basic 'cell' of brazilian music much the same way as solea is the 'mother of flamenco' ie accents... bossa nova is basically a 'slowed down' samba with 'jazzy' improvisation and harmony... both the americans and brazilians influenced each other musically in the 1960's..ie cultural exchange programs etc....so not unusual for musician to take a dizzy gillespie tune and give it that brazilian flavour the example video from kevin is a samba...slow it down and you have a bossa nova [ie bossa nova = samba on valium] all these brazilian forms stem from the 'choro' [ a precursor to samba] a combination of potuguese and european dances with african music and rhythmic 'bell' patterns...[these 'bell' patterns are also noticeable in some flamenco palo's particularly bulerias and tangos]... the basic 'cell'.. is in 2/4 [semiquaver-quaver-semiquaver on each beat] bass on the beat... chords on the 'off' beats with an accent on the last semiquaver in each grouping..and variations upon that... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clave_%28rhythm%29#Clave_in_Brazilian_music scroll down for brazilian clave anyway at risk of writing a paper..jazz consumes other musical cultures...possibly the original 'world' music.. like yamandu...definitely brazilian music [ not jazz ] but can sound like your listening to a jazz player on a nylon string...it's in the groove and 'feel'..not 'swung' like jazz...no accented backbeat [ie 2 and 4]... and joao bosco great video kevin...what a tripper...hope the post does'nt come of too 'noobish'[:D]

rombsix -> RE: jazz is taking me away (Mar. 20 2011 10:11:27)
Thanks for the tips, y'all!

chester -> RE: jazz is taking me away (Mar. 20 2011 18:24:38)
Great explanation AlVal! Great video of Yamandu, I remember seeing videos of him when he was just a little kid, nice to see him all grown up and even with a moustache! :) Speaking of Brazilian guitarists, do you guys know Raphael Rabello? He can also play flamenco! (until he busts out with Recuerdos de la Alhambra):

Kevin James Shanahan -> RE: jazz is taking me away (Mar. 20 2011 22:33:25)
Thank you Al , just checked out your myspace beautiful stuff , you played with yamandu and doug de vries last year wow [sm=Smiley Guitar.gif] . thx chester more seven string guitar cool [:)]. Here is my favourite yamandu costa clip.

kozz -> RE: jazz is taking me away (Mar. 21 2011 6:55:04)
quote: ah while I'm at it , this is one of the most amazing things I have ever seen , I'm talking energy and the cresendo this blows me away every time. This is great....Vikku is the best on the ghatam (indian udu) and some free jazz [;)]

Guest -> RE: jazz is taking me away (Mar. 22 2011 21:48:49)
some footage of paco and raphael interviewed on brazilian television... wish they recorded more together...

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