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Ruphus -> RE: 2000 millionares more in Spain (Mar. 20 2011 11:59:27)
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ORIGINAL: Deniz
Its actually not the work that makes you rich; its more the other people working for you that makes oneself rich.
Very true!
It would take too long trying to explain in detail, but people wouldn´t believe the practical outcome if alienating of labour surplus value was outlawed, as it absolutely should under actual human rights.
The great plagues, from exploding crime rates and corruption, over desinformation, denaturalization, unethical standards in general to exploitation, as secondary phenomenons would be erased simultaneously.
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ORIGINAL: Mark2
Don't discount brain work. If it was easy to run a large company, alot more people would do it.
In the nineties there was a period of headlines in the international press on this matter that you might have not noticed.
At that time several surveys were published that had examined special skills among top managers. The pale outcome was to be expected.
What commonly drives upper managing cirlces into position is nepotism, not qualification.
The people destined for upper career in industry or established politics typically get pushed through already during education ( school and university ) getting their grades granted; and in following working positions the actual organization is being conducted by subs / officials in charge.
Have you never wondered about top managers switching jobs on the fly regardless of special fields of production or service? Just as with established politicians hopping from a ministry to any other, without qualification?
Their actual qualification is their being connected which ain´t special skill, but usually due to birth.
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ORIGINAL: Shroomy726
Most public systems of education are a failure, so university is almost becoming a necessity. Most people don't know how to think on their own.
Why do you think that university in sight of intellectual independency was to be different from school?
Again, in the mid eighties the thinking dependency of students was a topic in the press.
Demanding professors were dispaired on the sheep-likeness of the students. And they still are.
Your are right in that common school is prepraring the mess, in that teachers penalize associative thinking as "going astray" and "failing on topic", but it ain´t much better with the didactics at universities, where it has been given in to contemporary inability by taking out text and replacing it by graphs and pictures, instead of taking measures to support intellectual capability.
Meanwhile teachers are of the Pisa generation themselves, besides.
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ORIGINAL: Ron.M
It's interesting to see that half the former cabinet ministers have now got jobs as directors of the Banks that they condemned so roundly while in office.
Usually these are not even jobs.
Resigned politicians commonly don´t even need to show up at their cushioned retirement position. Merely consulted when it is about lobbying the company´s request before parliamentarians in service.
In the end they typically wouldn´t have a practical clue of the job, as their education and "working experience" usually having nothing to do with the retirement position.
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ORIGINAL: Ron.M
Tony Blair toured the States charging £30,000 a pop for dinner evenings and talks.
It might be indicating his low popularity.
I think Gerhard Schröder takes 60 000€ and that Bill Clinton is commanding something around 100 US grands.
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ORIGINAL: tamoio
Some individuals in history (particularly Jesus Christ) have suggested that wealth is the definition of corruption.
That looks like a basic misconnection, eventhough many privilegeds show to be of contempting attitude against fellow men indeed. ( Curiously, apparently most of all / out of all with upcomers being worse than individuals of the traditional rich.)
I know of a couple of billionairs of which some changed from predator policies to humane ones at the end of their career; and of others who were philanthrops already during their active business career.
As definition for root of corruption, lack of education / desinformation should be rather causal.
Which leads us back to alienated labour surplus value and its secondary products.
Ruphus
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