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Güiro -> help identifying these tuning machines (Mar. 12 2011 16:51:27)

I really like these tuning machines but have no idea what company makes them. Can anyone identify them?



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Sean -> RE: help identifying these tuning machines (Mar. 13 2011 0:01:18)

Yup they're Gotoh premium tuners GGCSPECEB $187.60 @ LMI



Sean -> RE: help identifying these tuning machines (Mar. 13 2011 0:05:24)

Oops sorry I meant they're the GGCSPEC (ivoroid buttons) the GGCSPECEB have black buttons and are $204.95



KMMI77 -> RE: help identifying these tuning machines (Mar. 13 2011 0:14:41)

My conde came with these tuners also. They work well and feel smooth but the plate is very thick and heavy. I ended up replacing them for this reason.



Güiro -> RE: help identifying these tuning machines (Mar. 13 2011 20:39:35)

Thanks! that is definitely what they are.



Güiro -> RE: help identifying these tuning machines (Mar. 13 2011 20:40:53)

These are on my conde negra which is heavy so the thick plate doesn't bother me



KMMI77 -> RE: help identifying these tuning machines (Mar. 14 2011 3:37:54)

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These are on my conde negra which is heavy so the thick plate doesn't bother me


Hi Guiro, My conde is heavy also. I was curios about the effect that these tuners were having on the sound of my guitar so I tried swapping them with the tuners on my maldonado. I was surprised by the difference the swap made to both guitars. The lighter machine heads added significant warmth to the conde sound and removed some of the brittleness.

After playing the guitar like that for a few months i swapped the tuners back to see if my findings made sense a second time. The heavy plates and stainless steel barrels instantly changed the way the guitar was responding and within a few days i went back to the lighter plates again.

I just thought i would share this with you incase you are interested in experimenting yourself. The heavier plates have enhanced the sound IMO on my maldonado so it all kind of worked out for me.. [:D]



orsonw -> RE: help identifying these tuning machines (Mar. 28 2011 18:52:21)

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They work well and feel smooth but the plate is very thick and heavy


I weighed a set of Gotoh 35G510P they're fairly average weight; 78g
compared to Rubner; 74g
fustero 202/A; 78g
DJ; 84g
Gotoh 35G1600; 80g


Kris it may be that yours have the aluminium post, which would make them even lighter. Perhaps it's the aluminium that effected the sound of your Conde negatively and the Maldonado positively?

What type were the lighter ones that worked for the Conde?

I would recommend Gotoh 35G510P they are very smooth and accurate, I like the way they look; no lyre!

Here's a link to a Gotoh catalogue for anyone interested;
http://www.gotoh.ru/35G510_series.html



Güiro -> RE: help identifying these tuning machines (Mar. 28 2011 19:28:23)

thanks, I may have to experiment. I never gave much thought to the tuners affecting the sound before.



orsonw -> RE: help identifying these tuning machines (Mar. 28 2011 19:34:56)

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I never gave much thought to the tuners affecting the sound before


Me neither, I'm shallow, I mainly care what they look like!



KMMI77 -> RE: help identifying these tuning machines (Mar. 29 2011 3:59:53)

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Kris it may be that yours have the aluminium post, which would make them even lighter. Perhaps it's the aluminium that effected the sound of your Conde negatively and the Maldonado positively?

What type were the lighter ones that worked for the Conde?


Hi Orsow, Yes the aluminium has a noticeable effect to my ears. Makes sense considering they are directly in contact with the strings. I'm not sure regarding the brand name of the lighter tuners but they look quite cheap and standard. They are significantly lighter though but not very smooth at all.



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