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ashod -> Are frets my problem? (Mar. 7 2011 18:59:05)

Hi guys,

as some of you know, I bought a new guitar recently, a hermanos sanchis lopez 3f arce cutaway with integrated mic+pickup.

I had a problem with the Si string the first few days. I took it back to the shop where the luthier fixed the problem a few days after.

I went to pick it up and everything was good.
I've been playing it for 2 weeks and can't help but notice some more problems with it...

When i put a capo, at whatever level, I get strange buzz sounds when I play a baret chord.
Compared to my other guitar, the frets are very high starting at the Mi bass string and get lower to the Mi high pich string.
I'm taking it back to the shop on thursday, but I want to be sure what the problem is this time so I get them to fix it properly.
I have the impression they're not doing things properly since I'm not paying for repairs, because I just bought the guitar recently and have "warranty" for a year.

I tried getting the nut action higher with some paper under it, and it doesn't change anything with my problem when a capo is on.

I think the setup is already pretty high and can't think of anything besides the fret height and configuration.

The buzzing occurs on Sol and Si strings manly and it's driving me crazy.
I still can't figure out my new guitar, as it has some mood changes it seems...

Can anyone help? I'll put up any media needed for the diagnosis.




Harry -> RE: Are frets my problem? (Mar. 8 2011 0:41:02)

I am perhaps not the ideal person to answer this, but I will respond to keep the thread higher up in the list.

What about quickly examining the frets individually? It does sound to me like a fret issue and an experienced luthier can easily make this adjustment. Remember that we are talking less than 1mm sometimes here.




HolyEvil -> RE: Are frets my problem? (Mar. 10 2011 6:54:04)

hey ashod.. real good advice is just go to a luthier/guitar store and get a fret dress.. I got one recently because buzzing due to uneven frets on my guitar, went to a luthier, he dressed it and now the buzzing is less and the frets are alot smoother..

maybe get the luthier to do a fret dress and a setup at the same time.. you'll love it.. =)

cheers




ashod -> RE: Are frets my problem? (Mar. 10 2011 8:32:17)

Thank you both for your input.

The guitar is brand new, that's why I don't understand why the setup or frets could be so problematic.

I played some more with it, and I'm trying to think maybe it's the the part that holds the microphone in the guitar that is vibrating only when some notes are played.

I'm taking it to the luthier this afternoon and we'll see what his diagnosis is.
I can't wait for it to be perfect to post some buleria videos!

I'll keep you updated!

Thank you




estebanana -> RE: Are frets my problem? (Mar. 10 2011 20:36:33)

Lots of guitars don't get set up or fine tuned when they are new.

A fret service, means the repairer carefully analyzes the situation, there may be sectional leveling or an extensive all over leveling depending on the situation. Then re-crowning the frets and a bit of polishing.

Sometimes loose frets or a few high frets can be the issue. In that case spot leveling and careful filing to ease those frets into the right height with the surrounding frets will kill a lot of buzzing. These things can be difficult to diagnose and it's better to take it to a person who really knows fret work than someone who just throws on a nut and saddle without knowing the subtleties of action work.

It might be worth it to pay someone to do a half fret service to trouble shoot for any high or loose frets.

A great deal of the repair work I get is reworking action and frets that were not done right. Or when some guy pulls all the frets out and then does not know what to do. One of my regulars brought me an old flamenco guitar this week that has no frets because a repair man several years ago pulled them all out and then told him to fix up the guitar it would cost 800.00! So don't fall for that one. My customer picked up the guitar from that guy and left it in its case for years after that. But now we'll get it going again, and not for anything near 800.00.




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