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estebanana -> RE: My own bracing pattern (Feb. 25 2011 23:49:47)

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We used to sand cedar tops to 7mm then taper them around the edges to 4mm. We used very light fan bracing and after the guitar was assembled we continued shaping the top until the voice seemed right. This method resulted in extremely loud and percussive guitars.



maybe those guitars would be good for rumba players. it would d


or braced with a long skinny X and a trapeze bridge it would make a hybrid flat/ archtop with steel strings - could be very effective.




Andy Culpepper -> RE: My own bracing pattern (Mar. 31 2011 20:16:24)

OK so I got this guitar strung up today.
It's quite good. Whoever thought this guitar would be more classical sounding (including me) was dead wrong [8D]
It's got massive balls. Very percussive and Flamenco sounding. I like it even though it's not quite what I was hoping for. I think it's better than my old pattern.

I'll try to upload a video tomorrow so you can get an idea. It makes me sound a lot more like Moraito which I like [:)]




Stephen Eden -> RE: My own bracing pattern (Mar. 31 2011 20:24:35)

Great job Andy! I look forward to hearing what you made.




ralexander -> RE: My own bracing pattern (Apr. 1 2011 14:29:57)

very cool, looking forward to hearing it - nothing wrong with following your intuition [;)]




Andy Culpepper -> RE: My own bracing pattern (Apr. 1 2011 20:57:58)

So playing the guitar again this morning I decided I really like it a lot. I'm strongly considering building this pattern for my next order.

Here's a video I made today...
You'll have to excuse the camera mic quality, but I think you can get some idea of the sound.
Oh and excuse my playing! Just noodling a bit with some ideas I had on the spot.



no finish on it yet hence the taped on golpeador




Stephen Eden -> RE: My own bracing pattern (Apr. 1 2011 21:08:00)

OLE! nice




Doitsujin -> RE: My own bracing pattern (Apr. 1 2011 21:45:55)

ui! great sound!! Good work.

And please tell Florian your secret to get that big sound.. [;)] [:D]




orsonw -> RE: My own bracing pattern (Apr. 1 2011 22:03:07)

This guitar sounds great.

(Also as usual, I'm inspired by your arpeggio technique)




Kevin James Shanahan -> RE: My own bracing pattern (Apr. 2 2011 3:22:01)

Wow andy awesome , is that one for sale?




KMMI77 -> RE: My own bracing pattern (Apr. 2 2011 7:47:28)

Sounds very powerful Andy,

I'm glad the experiment has provided you with another nice guitar to play. I think if i started making guitars i would want to keep all of them. I would also want to make ten at a time just so i could have fun playing them all[:D]




rogeliocan -> RE: My own bracing pattern (Apr. 2 2011 11:01:52)

Nice sound and nice playing Andy.




at_leo_87 -> RE: My own bracing pattern (Apr. 2 2011 11:09:31)

way to go, andy!




Escribano -> RE: My own bracing pattern (Apr. 2 2011 12:25:05)

Sounds really bright - congrats!




aarongreen -> RE: My own bracing pattern (Apr. 2 2011 14:01:05)

Sounds good to me. Keep it up

aaron




kozz -> RE: My own bracing pattern (Apr. 2 2011 14:48:32)

Pretty powerfull....sounds great!




Andy Culpepper -> RE: My own bracing pattern (Apr. 2 2011 19:46:26)

Thanks everybody! I will post something else when it's finished. The guitar is going to be for sale but I may have an interested party already.




RTC -> RE: My own bracing pattern (Apr. 5 2011 0:06:33)

I posted on your Youtube, great sound.




Richard Jernigan -> RE: My own bracing pattern (Apr. 5 2011 23:53:51)

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ORIGINAL: KMMI77

Sounds very powerful Andy,

I'm glad the experiment has provided you with another nice guitar to play. I think if i started making guitars i would want to keep all of them. I would also want to make ten at a time just so i could have fun playing them all[:D]


Great sounding guitar, Andy.

Experimental guitars:

I stopped by the Bernabe shop when it was still at Cuchilleros 8, just off the Plaza Mayor. Bernabe, Sr. was seldom there, but Bernabe, Jr. was behind the counter that day. He offered me a guitar at a good price. He said it was a top model, but had experimental features. It looked beautiful. I played a few scales. Everywhere it appeared, on any string, anywhere on the fretboard, the note "A" ( La ) was considerably louder than the rest. After the scales I played a couple of "A's", and handed the guitar back with no comment. Bernabe, Jr. smiled and put it away in its case.

When Manuel Contreras, Sr.asked me about my visit to Bernabe, I told him about the experimental guitar. Contreras smiled and told me this story. He, Bernabe and Manzanero were all at the Frankfurt music fair. Bernabe was a tall, robust guy. Though a fantastic luthier, sometimes he could dominate the conversation a bit, in my experience.

Bernabe said, "I have made 20 experimental guitars during my career as a luthier, to explore the possibilities of the instrument. I still have every one of them."

Contreras replied, "Oh, that's too bad."

Bernabe: "What do you mean, 'too bad'?"

Contreras: "I too have made 20 experimental guitars. But I was able to sell them all."

RNJ




mottallica -> RE: My own bracing pattern (Apr. 27 2012 15:43:35)

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what do you guys think of this?



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i'm sorry i bring this topic up , but i'm just home after visiting boaz's shop and playing one of this "smurf village" guitars - the "clarita negra"

just amazing......
the volume was huge and the response was immediate
amazing guitar

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Arash -> RE: My own bracing pattern (Apr. 27 2012 16:23:45)

Andy,

i have no idea what you are doing there with your bracing system, but for me your guitars are the best sounding and come closest to my taste in this forum from all builders i have heard (no offence to anybody, just my own taste).

Keep doing what you do and don't let anybody tell you whats wrong and what not.




Peter Tsiorba -> [Deleted] (Apr. 27 2012 19:22:46)

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Samarto -> RE: My own bracing pattern (Apr. 27 2012 20:21:31)

Andy, Sounds very responsive and powerful. Now if you use wooden golpeadors, that sound will improve and show some real cajones. Using an opening on the harmonic bar and extending the outer braces has been used successfully and mainly with classical. An example would be Jeffery Elliot.




Andy Culpepper -> RE: My own bracing pattern (Apr. 27 2012 20:55:42)

Hehe, this was a while ago... thanks for bringing it back mottallica and your nice comments Arash.

So an update 15 guitars later... I never ended up using that exact bracing pattern again but it was totally freeing to take such a radical departure and come up with such a good guitar.
I DID end up keeping many elements of that pattern but have tweaked a lot of thing since then and now use that pattern in the picture below (no open harmonic bar) on all my flamenco guitars. I'm totally happy and the results keep getting better.
But some day I will go back and try that crazy thing again :)

Peter, I like that idea!! I think Kasha/Schneider would win (sounds like a harpsichord) followed by Smallman (banjo-ish [:)] ) btw your top reminds me of a cherry pie.



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ralexander -> [Deleted] (Apr. 27 2012 21:07:02)

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at_leo_87 -> RE: My own bracing pattern (Apr. 27 2012 23:33:08)

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the results keep getting better.


come on, dude. it's things like this that makes me really curious and want to get another guitar from you.

must.....hold.....back.....[:@]




Andy Culpepper -> RE: My own bracing pattern (Apr. 28 2012 17:31:01)

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come on, dude. it's things like this that makes me really curious and want to get another guitar from you.

must.....hold.....back.....


I have one thing to say: spread out the mileage [:D]




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