Ruphus -> RE: The Bullfight Bloody "UPSET" (Jun. 14 2014 9:02:40)
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Lenny, Withinity, What you are saying is correct and in the same time though leaving the inhumane conditions in place. Becoming desentized will not mean that sadistic background is being neutralized. A spectator who is not feeling with a tortured creature, still is being aware about what he would not be wanting to be going through himself while watching it happening to others. The bizarre pleasure of perfidity is still fully in place. Good that you mention gladiator games. They used to serve the very same background that is given in bullfighting. And these games from a distinct point of view in fact serve perfectly for the opposite example of civilisation. Quoting myself from a foregone thread: quote:
Then again, there has been historical example that indicates civility as culturally conditioned. The ancient Greeks refused to visit gladiator games the Romans had brought to them. They would disdain the cruelty, perceive no delight through sadistic voyeurism, even when the Romans then tried luring them in with time off ( and snacks, I think ) for visiting the games, and yet when Romans finally forced them to go. And finally there is the relevance of actually ongoing circumstances in contrast to the arbitrariness of whatever ( ignorant) viewing. If spectators´classifying of third´s pain as neglectable would actually render pain void, such games could be held without brutal consequences to the victim. However and unfortunately, this is not being the case and the harm staying undiminished. From there irrelevant what people with individual culture may possibly consider passable as effect on thirds, as for the victim actually nothing changes. Let´s keep in mind that the nature of evil is the fancy of two different sets of applying law. The one applying to thirds and the other one very differently to oneself. There exists no conclusive refuge for alike intellectual failure / comforting and miserable malice. - One example that I like to mention about insensibility is the following: Until early 20th century physicians were convinced that the nervous system of suckling was not yet developed enough to sense pain. So, they would operate babies without anaesthesia. You can certainly imagine how the sucklings would vehemently react to such approach. Yet, physicians would procede despite of objective symptoms with suffering sucklings, simply because of the operators´ conviction. Today one may remotely estimate the trauma for countless victims of stoical ignorance, throughout their pity lives. Noteworthy how the ignoring of the walk through hell, however persistantly, could not in a way lessen anything about the wordly facts of enduring. And today I assume we are all being really glad that physicians finally changed their mind and procedure. A same thing due to matadores and perfidly gloating public. The sooner they come to senses the better. Ruphus
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