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Guest -> RE: Minera (Nov. 14 2010 15:10:10)
quote: It is a difficult leap, for some; my self personally (although I make attempts) be great if you could post something...an attempt?

JasonMcGuire -> RE: Minera (Nov. 14 2010 16:39:14)
quote: Uhm. ok so here's me trying some(!) of the stuff in the idea post. very short thing Very nicely done mrMagenta. I love how you were using the E Melodic Minor scale there. You get the next prize!!!!! I am running out the door to fly to LA for show. I will make the account when I return on Monday.

JasonMcGuire -> RE: Minera (Nov. 14 2010 16:47:55)
quote: here is my interpretation of the chords in the post apologies for the dull delivery.. NIce! Thanks Al. I will make a video of these chords at some point. I don't want to spoil the fun of discovery for some just yet.[;)]

Joven35 -> RE: Minera (Nov. 14 2010 16:57:54)
Well, I could post a fantasia of mine. But I would not call it a Minera, although I use the language of flamenco it is not. It is a personal toque. I have already leaned what happens when I try to write something and call it flamenco. I get scolded. I actually wrote a Taranta when I was just beginning to learn Flamenco about 4 years ago. I was so happy with it, I thought it sounded great and because Taranta is a free form, I though ok that means I can have fun with it. So I traveled to Spain in 06 and played it for Manolo (I do have video of that but on tape) and he spent the next 30 mins of that lesson using me as an example to the whole medio class of how not compose in flamenco. It was one of the best lessons in my life and has profoundly affected me to this day to be careful when writing. In addition, when translating Manolo's book his section on composition has taught me to examine why it is I wish to compose, what is my motivation (know thy self)? Personally, for me I do not feel I have the capacity to compose yet – fantasias yes, true flamenco no. Which is why I gave Minera examples of people better than I (of which there are MANY!). I will try and post my fantasia soon (sometime next week). Regards.

mrMagenta -> RE: Minera (Nov. 14 2010 18:32:05)
quote: You get the next prize!!!!! WOOOHOOO!!! Man, you're way too generous :-) Between the alegrias harmony lesson, the por medio one and this thread there's already SOO much to explore and take in, and then WHAM! access to the TREASURE DOME! I'll do my best to use this opportunity well and hopefully address some embarrassing holes in my playing and knowledge.

Mike_Kinny -> [Deleted] (Nov. 14 2010 18:55:36)
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turnermoran -> RE: Minera (Nov. 14 2010 19:58:32)
MrMagenta - nice stuff! And great recording sound. Do you mind my asking a tech question: how did you record this, both in terms of audio and video? ToddK was just explaining to me that you can orient your recordings around the sound quality, using whatever gear you like, and then video it by what easy and cheap means you like. Then take the files (the audio and video) and merge and sync them in a video editing program. And what mics, mic pre's and software are you using?? (Sorry for the tech barrage. I'm really unhappy with the recording sound I'm getting and want to improve it). Thx

turnermoran -> RE: Minera (Nov. 14 2010 21:22:41)
quote: quote: Stephen Faulk's guitar looks and sounds great BTW. That is one amazing guitar. I'm jealous...... quote: i was just thinking that same thing I'm really digging my Stephen Faulk 7 string. In fact, I like it so much, I commissioned a 6 string negra from him last Spring. I'm bouncing off the walls with anticipation! I'll share some audio or video when I get it. [:D][:D][:D]

mrMagenta -> RE: Minera (Nov. 14 2010 21:39:21)
Hi Turner! It's funny that the audio turned out decent because I just recorded this without setting anything up. You see two microphones in the video but their direct sound is turned off, I had them dialed down on my behringer mixer but I didn't turn down the effects loop which had some long tailed reverb effect on it. The sound is captured by my camcorder microphone which is a Sony DV camera. The reverb comes from speakers left of the view. So it's the sound captured on the tape, no separate track :-) I have a freshly unpacked TubeMP preamp which I haven't used much yet, but here the mikes simply go into a cheap behringer mixer, which is a bit noisy... so I can't really recommend that one. on software and procedure The video is unedited, I transferred it to a computer through firewire with a free capture software called winDV and uploaded it straight to youtube. Next video I will try to have the image correct.. not squashed. :-D

Doitsujin -> RE: Minera (Nov. 14 2010 22:07:30)
quote: here is my interpretation of the chords in the post apologies for the dull delivery.. AIVal!!! Thank you very much!! That video is GOLD!

CarloJuan -> RE: Minera (Nov. 15 2010 4:17:26)
quote: I will no doubt offer more in the future. Hugs and kisses...hahaha [:D][:D][:D]

Guest -> RE: Minera (Nov. 15 2010 4:19:53)
quote: That video is GOLD! lol thought more lead...just trying to help others and get them started....[:)] to joven quote: I could post a fantasia of mine. sounds like a great idea would be really intrested The manolo experience sounds confronting and very brave of you...well done!

marduk -> RE: Minera (Nov. 15 2010 5:05:03)
quote: now back to the alzapua looking forward to hearing it. i love some good thumb action

Mike_Kinny -> [Deleted] (Nov. 15 2010 9:55:08)
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michel -> RE: Minera (Nov. 15 2010 11:15:08)
i just found this minera played by Amir Haddad sounds very nice! http://www.mundo-flamenco.com/de/media/videoclips (scroll down to the last video)

Mike_Kinny -> [Deleted] (Nov. 15 2010 11:21:23)
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at_leo_87 -> RE: Minera (Nov. 15 2010 12:03:23)
wow, i had no idea this was going on! great job to everyone who uploaded and ole to maestro jason for his generosity!

Guest -> RE: Minera (Nov. 15 2010 15:56:14)
ok it's 2am ...kids asleep in the next room but thought i'd document my days work on the minera...so the playing is subdued..shhh! still working on the post..feel i will be for many months quote: Alzapua or some other flashy thing like a ligado run or something...... BAM hit that Ab Minera chord quote: Bmaj/A, Amaj7, A7, A7#11, Amin7, Amin6, F#min7,F#min7/G, G#7b9 an attempt at that with those chords in mind...a few ommisions...with an alzapua sequence which i will diligently practice for the next year[:D] think it will sound cool once up to speed... the sequence came from the first post [improv] Michel quote: i just found this minera played by Amir Haddad sounds very nice! thanks for that. beautiful sounds. enjoyed[:)]

JasonMcGuire -> RE: Minera (Nov. 15 2010 19:22:30)
kind of far out, but faster should sound great.

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marduk -> RE: Minera (Nov. 16 2010 17:55:46)
ive gone off track a bit with this project, but i think its a good thing. im going to get a bit more confident with harmony for a while, and use these guidelines to make some excersizes, then come back to it wow Al, there is a lot going on there [;)] that was cool

XXX -> RE: Minera - my attempt (Nov. 16 2010 19:54:26)
Brian, that was miraculous! Impossible to beat that... also nice playing, love your tone man! Post more often please :) Ok this is my somewhat noobish attempt. I have alot more ideas but i was unable to really "form" a consistent piece out of them. Also in this video you see im not always sure where to go next [&:] its NOT improvisation, i actually know WHERE to go, but i dont always remember in that very moment HOW i decided to play it, and then i make mistakes... anyway it is what it is, i thought there were at least some nice chords in it (beginning chords are mine for example) (please ignore the playing [X(] i apologize for it but i really had not the time to go in detail of all techniques and now im a bit "burned out" on it)

Ron.M -> RE: Minera - my attempt (Nov. 16 2010 20:01:35)
No need for all the apologies, Deniz... Sounded great to me anyway! (In fact I liked it better than Amir's. Less is more..[;)]) cheers, Ron

XXX -> RE: Minera - my attempt (Nov. 16 2010 20:05:25)
Thanks Ron! I thought its ok to upload it, since this thread is more about compositioning (rather than playing) and maybe it could contribute something to it in that regards. Thx again! [:)]

turnermoran -> RE: Minera (Nov. 16 2010 20:05:48)
Deniz - wow man!! Your minera is beautiful so far. Love the intro! Very Vincente inspired - always a good thing in my book. IMO, it sounds composed - but in the best way possible. It's got what it needs without unnecessary repetition (as mine did). It sounds great. Can't wait to hear more. I think it's good to remember that Jason's initial instructions didn't specify that the end result needed to be improvised or composed. (I only improvised mine as a means of doing it fast as possible to win the "prize"!!). And I think if you compose it along the lines he suggested, odds are, it'll sound better in the end. Personally, I think it's almost impossible that it wouldn't sound better than something improvised. So keep going! AlVal said something in a recent post that echoes something I heard someone say once: Improvising is (or should be) composing sped up, and composing is improvising slowed down.

turnermoran -> RE: Minera - my attempt (Nov. 16 2010 20:12:09)
Deniz - btw: what is that guitar you're playing? Sounds great!

Pgh_flamenco -> RE: Minera - my attempt (Nov. 16 2010 20:16:32)
quote: please ignore the playing Why? That was very musical and moving. Great playing on your part, Deniz!

Mike_Kinny -> [Deleted] (Nov. 16 2010 20:19:46)
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Guest -> RE: Minera - my attempt (Nov. 16 2010 20:21:01)
Thanks Deniz Beautiful playing...cant wait to hear more...stunning tone...love the ways the ideas connect...inspiring... loving this thread!

XXX -> RE: Minera - my attempt (Nov. 16 2010 20:40:43)
Thanks alot guys!! Brian the guitar is a Darren Hippner and i love this guitar!

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