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Joven35 -> RE: Who here came to flamenco via jazz/improv vs. through composed music? (Nov. 9 2010 14:02:17)

I am sorry. I though Jason had a sense of humor. I did not mean to hurt his feelings...but by his videos I guess I did. Too much, maybe? I will not do it again. But really, that stuff on his video is not flamenco, but it is definitely Jason. There are also definite things that Manolo says specifically in his book "On the Flamenco Guitar: Theory and System of the flamenco guitar," that you should not do but Jason does. That is just a fact. I can not do anything about that no matter how many videos he makes (which by the way are great, I love them Jason!). Anyway, I will not comment on this thread further so as to not egg anyone on.

JAR



JasonMcGuire -> RE: Who here came to flamenco via jazz/improv vs. through composed music? (Nov. 9 2010 14:14:43)

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But really, that stuff on his video is not flamenco, but it is definitely Jason. There are also definite things that Manolo says specifically in his book "On the Flamenco Guitar: Theory and System of the flamenco guitar," that you should not do but Jason does. That is just a fact.


Manolo Sanlucar is not the supreme authority on flamenco and neither are you. Do you care to go into specifics?



at_leo_87 -> RE: Who here came to flamenco via jazz/improv vs. through composed music? (Nov. 9 2010 14:29:49)

it really doesn't help anybody when someone says things like "this is not _____ because _____ said so." [8|]



marduk -> RE: Who here came to flamenco via jazz/improv vs. through composed music? (Nov. 10 2010 2:08:10)

my background is in blues, rock, metal and ambient music. ive always loved playing guitar though, and used to practice electric as obsessively as i do now with flamenco.

in the past my strongest point has always been improv (most of my gigs have been as a session guitarist with other musicians)

i had always been a fan of paco de lucia, and used to watch flamenco video's on youtube, and saw it as a very challenging form of guitar, that i loved the sound of and i really enjoy the singers and dancers

it wasnt until i met some people studying flamenco, and started to learn about the history, and about things like compas and different palos. a lot of what i have learned about flamenco culture, and history has also drawn me in



estebanana -> RE: Who here came to flamenco via jazz/improv vs. through composed music? (Nov. 10 2010 3:48:12)

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There are also definite things that Manolo says specifically in his book "On the Flamenco Guitar: Theory and System of the flamenco guitar," that you should not do but Jason does. That is just a fact.



Every guitarist in flamenco who was anything or anybody had a personal toque and they arrived at that toque by breaking the "rules" set down by the previous generation. This relates perfectly to the problem of flamenco being assimilated into an academic context. The trouble is that in academia that the person in control gets to say what is good and what is bad and that often becomes the style or criteria for what is considered a successful artist venture and what is not.


Ironically, many future flamencos may not have to be subjected to overcoming the "rules" and regulations set forth by flamenco academics because they might not qualify to attend college.

Is there an application process to be accepted to the Universidad de Las Tres Mil? If anyone has the forms can you please fax them to me? Thanks.

I'm interested in the Post Baccalaureate Program for Guiri's of Distinction

(sorry to be flogging this dead horse again, but I have a fetish for the smell of dead horse flesh)



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flamablanca -> RE: Who here came to flamenco via jazz/improv vs. through composed music? (Nov. 11 2010 19:30:13)

Soooo its all fun and games talking **** via the foro but what happens when your flamenco circles cross and you 3 guys meet in person???



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