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rogeliocan -> Impressive, strange, maybe a bit sad (Oct. 18 2010 13:13:27)

Someone sent me this link, apparently she's 5. I say it's a bit sad because all of us here know how much work is required to play guitar well, I would be tempted to think that she does not do much of anything else which is not much of a childhood.
Also I could say that it's a bit sad because she can play better than I can [:(]

http://www.tvkim.com/watch/326/kims-picks-north-korean-girl-guitarist




Ron.M -> RE: Impressive, strange, maybe a bit sad (Oct. 18 2010 13:22:53)

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Also I could say that it's a bit sad because she can play better than I can


[:D][:D] She probably plays better than most of us on the Forum!

Sickening...eh? [:D]

cheers,

Ron




Stu -> RE: Impressive, strange, maybe a bit sad (Oct. 18 2010 13:51:20)

wow!!!




Guest -> RE: Impressive, strange, maybe a bit sad (Oct. 18 2010 13:57:49)

spotted the vid a few weeks back
freakish
amazing though is the musicality of it all...let alone the playing..
my ghast is flabbered.




gounaro -> RE: Impressive, strange, maybe a bit sad (Oct. 18 2010 14:32:09)

What did we do when we were at her age? [8|]




Chiste de Gales -> RE: Impressive, strange, maybe a bit sad (Oct. 18 2010 14:35:33)

Child prodigies are the last socially acceptable freak show.




beno -> RE: Impressive, strange, maybe a bit sad (Oct. 18 2010 14:49:55)

well, she looks happy....but why don't they give her a smaller guitar??




gounaro -> RE: Impressive, strange, maybe a bit sad (Oct. 18 2010 14:55:23)

Because in North Korea there is dictatorship!




Ramon Amira -> RE: Impressive, strange, maybe a bit sad (Oct. 18 2010 15:06:49)

It's a fake. They taught her some hand movements, and then the whole thing was dubbed by Manitas de Plata![:D]

Amazing.




kozz -> RE: Impressive, strange, maybe a bit sad (Oct. 18 2010 16:01:21)

Damn,
can you imagine a flamenco guitar as big as a contrabass and play it?




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Elie -> RE: Impressive, strange, maybe a bit sad (Oct. 18 2010 18:59:11)

quote:

She probably plays better than most of us on the Forum!

I don't agree [8D]
but yea that was sick [:@]
[8|] why the hell are asian people good at everything




kovachian -> RE: Impressive, strange, maybe a bit sad (Oct. 18 2010 20:26:37)

I doubt she's 5, more like a really tiny 15 year old. She's probably the lovechild of Gary Coleman and Margaret Cho.




Ron.M -> RE: Impressive, strange, maybe a bit sad (Oct. 18 2010 20:27:47)

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why the hell are asian people good at everything


Less modern career aspirations and more time to focus on stuff...just like the Gitanos. [:D]

cheers,

Ron




Chiste de Gales -> RE: Impressive, strange, maybe a bit sad (Oct. 18 2010 20:57:59)

Also the belief that there is no middle ground between perfection and failure.


If you aren't first, you're last.

-Ricky Bobby




CarloJuan -> RE: Impressive, strange, maybe a bit sad (Oct. 19 2010 7:52:40)

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ORIGINAL: DarkElieDraven

[8|] why the hell are asian people good at everything


thanks [:D][:D][:D]




Elie -> RE: Impressive, strange, maybe a bit sad (Oct. 19 2010 8:05:28)

you're welcome [8D]




Argaith -> RE: Impressive, strange, maybe a bit sad (Oct. 19 2010 10:34:31)

I loved the golpes; she's actually beating the guitar!




Kevin James Shanahan -> RE: Impressive, strange, maybe a bit sad (Oct. 19 2010 10:55:34)

O M G . Why are humans not evolving . That was awsome . Peace .




cosimojack -> RE: Impressive, strange, maybe a bit sad (Oct. 19 2010 11:46:21)

Freaky...

I have a 5 year old and it's hard to imagine him or any of his friends building the necessary hand strength and coordination to play like this.




Ron.M -> RE: Impressive, strange, maybe a bit sad (Oct. 19 2010 14:17:28)

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I have a 5 year old and it's hard to imagine him or any of his friends building the necessary hand strength and coordination to play like this.


Hmmm....I'm actually a bit suspicious of this now. Isn't there a condition called "dwarfism"?
The kid could maybe be 10 or 11 and just dressed up as an infant.

Also her arms seem disproportionally "long" for a kid of 5...

Also when did she start playing in order to get that technique and ability to play more or less flawlessly under "live" conditions with cameras and an audience?

Add to that the strength and coordination of both hands and a sort of maturity in the playing that would be quite outstanding in a 10 year old, but absolutely astonishing in a 5 year old.

cheers,

Ron

Apologies to all if my suspicions are unjustified.




jg7238 -> RE: Impressive, strange, maybe a bit sad (Oct. 19 2010 15:36:23)

Not even John Williams or PDL were playing when they were 5. They were around 7. At 5, it's very difficult to have that kind of strength to play in my opinion. I guess she is without a doubt an exception.




Estevan -> RE: Impressive, strange, maybe a bit sad (Oct. 19 2010 17:01:39)

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Not even John Williams or PDL were playing when they were 5. They were around 7.

John says in the documentary that he used to think that he had started at around 7, but found out later that he started when he was 4.

I don't know how old PdL was when he started, but he has said that as a kid surrounded by flamenco he already knew all the music and just had to find out where it was on the guitar.




Estevan -> RE: Impressive, strange, maybe a bit sad (Oct. 19 2010 17:06:26)

This is even more freaky looking:





Elie -> RE: Impressive, strange, maybe a bit sad (Oct. 19 2010 17:25:22)

quote:

This is even more freaky looking:
[sm=rolleyes.gif][sm=lol.gif][:@]




edguerin -> RE: Impressive, strange, maybe a bit sad (Oct. 19 2010 17:33:25)

I seriously doubt she's five.
I haven't seen this explicitly stated anywhere; but I did find this:

quote:

Her name is Kang Eunju. She belongs to Shin Hung Kindergarten in Hamhung City in North Korea...".


So they own her?
[&:][&:][&:]




Ron.M -> RE: Impressive, strange, maybe a bit sad (Oct. 19 2010 18:01:26)

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So they own her?


No Ed,

I think she does it for the love of Kim Jong, part God, part Leader and Benefactor of his people and to show that N.Korea is the best country in the world to be part of...

cheers,

Ron




Ramon Amira -> RE: Impressive, strange, maybe a bit sad (Oct. 19 2010 20:45:23)

quote:

Not even John Williams or PDL were playing when they were 5. They were around 7. At 5, it's very difficult to have that kind of strength to play in my opinion. I guess she is without a doubt an exception.


It's generally accepted that Sabicas started when he was five. Mario Escudero at six. Pepe Romero says he started when he was two, but that's hard to believe. If John Williams says he started at four I wouldn't doubt it, since his father, Len Williams, was a teacher of classical guitar. So was Celedonio Romero, but four is not two.

But I agree with JG - I've had many prospective five year old students, and after talking to the child and a little playing test, I told the parents of every single one that the child was simply not ready.

On the other hand, every child is individual, and of course there are the circumstances – family, ambience, inherent desire, physical ability and development, etc., so it's hard to make a blanket statement.




Escribano -> RE: Impressive, strange, maybe a bit sad (Oct. 19 2010 20:53:35)

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The kid could maybe be 10 or 11 and just dressed up as an infant.


Considering her race and putting her on the petite side of that, I would guess 8-10 years old. Which would give her maybe 3-4 years of intense instruction behind her, and by rote I suspect.




rogeliocan -> RE: Impressive, strange, maybe a bit sad (Oct. 19 2010 21:23:27)

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Considering her race and putting her on the petite side of that, I would guess 8-10 years old. Which would give her maybe 3-4 years of intense instruction behind her, and by rote I suspect.


Yep I would go for that, it would make more sense to me.
It reminds me of the specialized training in the USSR back in the days, I suppose there is some good in socialist regimes. The USSR had the athletes, Cuba the doctors and North Korea, tiny guitarists [8D] (and soldiers).




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