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TANúñez -> Compas Book? (Oct. 8 2010 0:55:47)

Does anyone know if a book exists that shows some various compas patterns in the various keys?




Florian -> RE: Compas Book? (Oct. 8 2010 1:27:56)

good question...and a good idea for something that's never been done..

not that i can think of or have ever seen...i mean its covered in almost any flamenco book, but i have never seen one specific for compas




por medio -> RE: Compas Book? (Oct. 8 2010 7:24:30)

I don't know a such book but I don't think it's a good way of learning it anyway...

Are you stuck on some compas ideas?




mrMagenta -> RE: Compas Book? (Oct. 8 2010 11:01:56)

I don't see how it could hurt to study other players compas variations. I would like such a thing. I often feel like expanding my rhythmic vocabulary, especially for palos I don't play much.. sure there is youtube, but you always loose a lot of time searching around instead of having something quick and accessible

Hmm. Norman might have something in his collections?




DoctorX2k2 -> RE: Compas Book? (Oct. 8 2010 11:42:36)

Understanding Flamenco by Faustino Nunez?




NormanKliman -> RE: Compas Book? (Oct. 8 2010 11:45:31)

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Norman might have something in his collections?


If you mean simple ways to keep rhythm, I've got a number of ideas for bulerías:

http://www.canteytoque.es/bulerias.htm

I haven't seen much on these kinds of short ideas, not even from teachers, although they're an essential part of playing.




Chiste de Gales -> RE: Compas Book? (Oct. 8 2010 15:04:07)

get this book:



http://www.amazon.com/Flamenco-Music-Theory-Instructional-Fernandez/dp/8460935140/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1286549713&sr=1-1

It does a pretty good job of it. Its also good to have for the experienced player
who does a lot of self-teaching from recordings. You never really learn every aspect
to the music teaching yourself. This book helps fill in the blanks.

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rogeliocan -> RE: Compas Book? (Oct. 8 2010 15:08:49)

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Understanding Flamenco by Faustino Nunez?


I think you are asking for different set of chords to play in different compas, if that is the case, Faustino's book does not have that, it talks about beats and accents and shows some chords but not a bunch of 'chord progressions' you can play in compas.




rogeliocan -> RE: Compas Book? (Oct. 8 2010 15:13:30)

quote:

get this book:



http://www.amazon.com/Flamenco-Music-Theory-Instructional-Fernandez/dp/8460935140/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1286549713&sr=1-1


You can check it out at Google books
http://books.google.com/books?id=EPC-yn0xcIAC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Flamenco+Music+Theory&hl=en&ei=aTOvTIePNcOBlAe7uM21BQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=book-thumbnail&resnum=1&ved=0CDEQ6wEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

Not sure that is what you are looking for though, there's piano bars in there.




TANúñez -> RE: Compas Book? (Oct. 8 2010 18:29:49)

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I think you are asking for different set of chords to play in different compas


Yes exactly. I know lots of falsetas but would like to learn more compas patterns/chord changes. I don't have a teacher and I'm bored with the material I do know. I'd just like to learn more compas patterns for something say like a Bulerias in E.




kozz -> RE: Compas Book? (Oct. 8 2010 19:02:48)

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Yes exactly. I know lots of falsetas but would like to learn more compas patterns/chord changes. I don't have a teacher and I'm bored with the material I do know. I'd just like to learn more compas patterns for something say like a Bulerias in E.


Something like this?
(rename to pdf after downloading!)



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TANúñez -> RE: Compas Book? (Oct. 8 2010 19:12:09)

hi kozz, for some reason I can't download it. Perhaps you could email it to me?
info at lafalseta dot com thank you




kozz -> RE: Compas Book? (Oct. 8 2010 19:41:09)

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hi kozz, for some reason I can't download it. Perhaps you could email it to me?
info at lafalseta dot com thank you


I've mailed it.
Just tried it myselves...the problem is that it renames the file to the "foro"-format




por medio -> RE: Compas Book? (Oct. 8 2010 20:35:24)

I'm sure that you've gone through this but I do want to suggest that you should always take time to learn accompaniments of records. Listen, figure the chords out, and play along to Camaron, Terremoto, Jose and co. Cantaors such as Camaron, Morente, Arcangel, Potito will give you some unusual ideas of course.

In that way not only you'll learn new progressions, you'll know how it is applied and at the same time subconsciously learn some singing melodies too.

If you're relatively new to this (I have no idea if you are), then it would help immensely to have a good teacher who will show you how this is done (learning "how to fish" you could say).

As someone said once, "the longest way between A and B is the shortcut". It's very true.

I hope it helps

Francis[:)]




Lucerom -> RE: Compas Book? (Oct. 8 2010 21:30:37)

The new "Palos" Thread in the Academy section of the Foro looks like it will be your best source once it is developed.

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tt.asp?appid=16




TANúñez -> RE: Compas Book? (Oct. 9 2010 0:52:33)

Thanks for the suggestions. I was just wondering if there was a book out with various compas' in the different keys. I do a lot of listening to cante so that helps a lot but sometimes I'll learn a falseta in a certain key and want to try different compas' in that particular key.




RTC -> RE: Compas Book? (Oct. 9 2010 1:09:11)

You might want to contact Miguel Antonio in Plano/richardson, he's got lots of books and info.
http://www.miguelantonio.com/




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TANúñez -> RE: Compas Book? (Oct. 9 2010 23:25:37)

RTC, Miguel used to be my teacher but haven't studied with him in quite some time. May need to start up again.




TANúñez -> RE: Compas Book? (Oct. 9 2010 23:27:18)

Thanks nealf. Haven't seen that Claude Worms book. Will check it out.




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