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antonio -> book? (Jan. 11 2005 15:31:42)

Hi,
Does anyone know of a good book with solos (solo pieces) for a beguiner?
Well, not really a total beguiner in guitar but perhaps beguiner -intermediate in flamenco.
Thank you
Antonio




Miguel de Maria -> RE: book? (Jan. 11 2005 15:43:47)

Toques Flamencos by Paco Pena is always good to get your started. Not easy by any means.

Juan Martin's stuff is maybe a little easier and not too bad either, or Dennis Kostner.

Both of these sources feature "old-school" flamenco of the 1920-1960 era.




antonio -> RE: book? (Jan. 11 2005 16:49:34)

Hi Miguel,
thank you for your answer. the book by Dennis Koster is this?: "The Keys to Flamenco Guitar with CD Volume 1 " and the book by Juan Martin :"Play Solo Flamenco Guitar with Juan Martin " with cd and Dvd?
Gracias
Antonio




TANúñez -> RE: book? (Jan. 11 2005 16:54:50)

Hi Antonio. I would go with either Juan Martin's or Paco Peña's books. I thought the material by Koster was a little 'dry'. I don't know how else to explain it. It was as if it was missing something. Don't get me wrong. It is a good source but not challenging enough.




Miguel de Maria -> RE: book? (Jan. 11 2005 17:50:45)

I don't know, if you are talking about material to play, ie repertoire, I would go with Paco Pena, probably. If you want something that's going to show you how to play, you probably want to get a video like Juan Martin's. The best might to get all of them, perhaps used on Ebay? Dennis Kostner has a lot of very important information in his book.




antonio -> RE: book? (Jan. 12 2005 9:26:56)

Hi,
Thank you Miguel and Tom. My english is not very good ; what I meant was more repertoire material, I mentioned the titles of the books to make sure that it was those ones (the authors you mentioned have other several books).




Graeme -> RE: book? (Jan. 12 2005 9:32:31)

Antonio,
Fully agree with El Zurdo. I like all Juan Martin's instructional stuff but you may not be aware that his 3-video course (La Guitarra Flamenca) is now available on DVD (2 disks & 3 books) from his website (http://www.flamencovision.com) at a give-away price. Highly recommended.
Graeme




Jon Boyes -> RE: book? (Jan. 13 2005 8:30:09)

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ORIGINAL: antonio
Hi,
Does anyone know of a good book with solos (solo pieces) for a beguiner?
Well, not really a total beguiner in guitar but perhaps beguiner -intermediate in flamenco.
Thank you
Antonio


Paco's Toques Flamencos is a great collection of traditional style solos stuffed full of trad falsetas, but they are definitely pitched at intermediate level, and assume that all the techniques, compas knowledege are already there. There is no real 'instruction', save a couple of pages at the beginning which really only serve to de-mystify Paco's unique method of scoring this stuff.

A couple of the pieces in the book (the rumba, eh Mike? [;)]) are IMO quite advanced. They are long (often running into a dozen pages of score or more!), and require a fair bit of work if you want to learn whole pieces (not necessarily a good idea anyway).

It might be better to opt for the Juan Material. IMO, the video series that Grame mentions is the best bet because you get playable solos that aren't too long AND lots of instruction/explanation. Only drawback is the tiny books with them that have about two lines of score per page [:D]

Personally, I do not like Juan's latest DVD material as its targetted at beginners yet there doesn't seem to be much instruction there. I am teaching a guy some stuff at the moment who bought this DVD and dived straight in - I am having to unravel a lot of stuff with him - all he is seeing is notes on a page and he's missing the fundamental compas and aire of the different palos.

Graf Martinez has some excellent tuition material, but he concentrates on compas and doesn't really go in for solos until you get to the end of book 2 which is really intermediate/advanced.

HTH.

Jon




Miguel de Maria -> RE: book? (Jan. 13 2005 16:35:36)

Jon,
don't be so sore about the rumba, anyways, Ron was just as harsh as I was. Anyways, I play that piece myself so I know how hard it is. If I could play it well I would have uploaded it already :)




Jon Boyes -> RE: book? (Jan. 14 2005 9:20:55)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Miguel de Maria
Jon,
don't be so sore about the rumba,


Ermm... Mike, you misunderstood. No soreness - I was just admitting that it was tricky - you said before that you had difficulties playing it yourself, and so I knew you'd agree.

Jon




antonio -> RE: book? (Jan. 17 2005 11:57:15)

Hello,
Thank you everybody for your comments.
Antonio




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