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johnguitar -> madagascar rosewood (Aug. 22 2010 7:38:03)

http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=12&t=004293#000003



krichards -> RE: madagascar rosewood (Aug. 22 2010 8:15:10)

I'm not familiar with this wood and I've never used it.
I didn't realise it was commonly used in Lutherie.
Who uses it and for what sort of instrument? Is it mainly backs/sides?



buleria74 -> RE: madagascar rosewood (Aug. 22 2010 11:52:11)

yes, it's used on back and sides of guitars. I have Madagascar rosewood guitar,

it sounds very nice. unfortunately the forest will disappear in the future.



gj Michelob -> RE: madagascar rosewood (Aug. 22 2010 16:05:02)

quote:

I'm not familiar with this wood and I've never used it.
I didn't realise it was commonly used in Lutherie.
Who uses it and for what sort of instrument? Is it mainly backs/sides?


Luthier Mercantile International ceased stocking this wood.
http://www.lmii.com/CartTwo/Secondproducthead.asp?CategoryName=+Backs+and+Sides

It’s been used frequently as a possible replacement for the legendary Brazilian Rosewood, but mostly on Classical, rather than Flamenco guitars). It is generally rich in color with dramatic designs and texture. ‘here are a few models starting at about $4,000

Loriente Sofia
http://www.guitarsalon.com/product.php?productid=287

Teodoro perez
http://www.guitarsalon.com/product.php?productid=326

Rothel
http://www.guitarsalon.com/product.php?productid=3295



BarkellWH -> RE: madagascar rosewood (Aug. 22 2010 17:52:34)

In 2007 Vicente Carrillo made a flamenca negra to my specifications using Madagascar Rosewood for the back and sides. It has a great flamenco sound, and the color and texture of the wood is beautiful. Madagascar Rosewood is more reddish in color, as opposed to Indian Rosewood which tends to be much darker. Of the "Big Three" rosewoods used by luthiers (Brazilian, Madagascar, and Indian), it looks like Indian will be the only commercially viable and sustainable rosewood in the future.

Cheers,

Bill



Doitsujin -> RE: madagascar rosewood (Aug. 22 2010 17:55:32)

I would never use wood from these guys.... Or do you trust em?



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buleria74 -> RE: madagascar rosewood (Aug. 23 2010 17:33:55)

quote:

but mostly on Classical, rather than Flamenco guitars


that was my understanding too, I am now playing on a 1F Madagascar

Hermanos Sanhis Lopez, it is great, it has a round and sweet sound but

still flamenco, high quality Indian rosewood might be abit more percussive,

after having played on many guitars made by Indian rosewood, I prefer

this one made of Madagascar rosewood. they cost aruond €2200 - €2300

the model I am playing.



TANúñez -> RE: madagascar rosewood (Aug. 24 2010 1:24:48)

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I would never use wood from these guys.... Or do you trust em?


[:D][:D][:D]

The lion looks like he just found out his Brazilian is actually Madagascar.



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Estevan -> RE: madagascar rosewood (Sep. 10 2010 18:40:40)

Illegal rosewood logging in Madagascar

Photographer Toby Smith talks about his pictures documenting the illegal logging trade in Madagascar, which he helped bring to the world's attention by going undercover with environmental groups. The US Environmental Investigation Agency intends to use Smith's pictures, along with other evidence gathered, to prosecute those responsible for creating the international market outside of Madagascar. This summer, the rainforests of Atsinanana in Madagascar were placed on Unesco's list of world heritage in danger

Slide show with commentary:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/interactive/2010/sep/10/toby-smith-logging-madagascar



MiguelSan -> RE: madagascar rosewood (Dec. 11 2010 12:53:28)

I made a guitar with Madagascar rosewood and cedar top Canadian, usually this type of timber used for classical guitars, and well, this was the result, I can say I made it and I like the sound of same

Greetings



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BarkellWH -> RE: madagascar rosewood (Dec. 11 2010 13:15:39)

MiguelSan, or anyone else on the Forum,

Can you tell from the photo of this Madagascar Rosewood guitar back whether the wood is quarter-sawn or flat-sawn? If so, how can you determine which it is? I have heard that much Madagascar Rosewood is flat-sawn because many of the trees are not of sufficient diameter for quarter-sawn. I do not know how to tell quarter-sawn from flat-sawn wood, though, and would appreciate a quick tutorial, using the photo as an example of one or the other.

Many thanks for any assistance.

Cheers,

Bill



aarongreen -> RE: madagascar rosewood (Dec. 11 2010 17:55:39)

The back in the photo appears to me to be flatsawn. Rather than go into a long description of how to tell the difference, you can do searches on the web and find lots of information with diagrams to help you.

What you have heard about Madagascar rosewood seems to be true, at least the kind I've come across, which is to say that the trees do not get large enough to produce quartered two piece sets. I bought a large quantity of this wood back in the late 90's and it is all quartered or close to quartered, however it is 4 piece back stock. Thankfully it is very easy to make a 4 piece back look like a 2 piece back if you have enough stock to choose from. There is no difference in quality between 4, 3 or 2 piece back in and of itself. I would rather a 4 piece back of stellar wood than a 2 piece back of mediocre any day.



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