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HuBaghdadi -> How to sustain fingers power? (Aug. 19 2010 11:47:55)

Hey,
When I'm trying to increase the speed of an arpeggio or a rasgueado the sound is becoming weaker and sometimes much weaker (I'm trying to stay relaxed).
How to sustain the power of fingers when accelerating the movements?
Thanks.



KMMI77 -> RE: How to sustain fingers power? (Aug. 19 2010 11:59:18)

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When I'm trying to increase the speed of an arpeggio or a rasgueado the sound is becoming weaker and sometimes much weaker (I'm trying to stay relaxed).


I don't know of any short cuts. Lots of slow "tai chi speed" practice is the best IMO. The weaker feeling sounds like tension to me.



Elie -> RE: How to sustain fingers power? (Aug. 19 2010 12:06:50)

practice the movement slowly till you master it ,
train ur fingers each one by itself , like when doing the rasgueado (a,m,i)
play (a) multiple times alone then m multiple times then i then combine them together rest ur thump on the low e string
try to strike the strings parallel to the top with ur nails.
good luck



at_leo_87 -> RE: How to sustain fingers power? (Aug. 19 2010 16:30:36)

speed and power go hand in hand, imo. actually, i find it hard to play faster without playing a bit harder as well.

give this a shot:
work with a metronome. find a speed where you maintain control, power, and relaxation, basically your comfort zone. now stay there and work on it and really take in the sensation you get from your hands, make it perfect. the next week, increase the metronome by only 5%. then work on that until it's perfect. and keep going, week after week.

so essentially, you're not working on increasing your top speed but rather expanding your comfort zone. as a result, your top speed will go along with it and you will maintain power and control and relaxation.



Chiste de Gales -> RE: How to sustain fingers power? (Aug. 19 2010 18:45:34)

My teacher in music school told us to play slowly with tons of power and really loud. This develops more strength.



Ramon Amira -> RE: How to sustain fingers power? (Aug. 19 2010 20:12:20)

Whatever you try, don't do this - I read this a long time ago, don't know if it's true, but I wouldn't try it. The way I heard or read this, a famous pianist from the past - I can't remember his name - put little weights on his fingers, and exercised them with the weights on in order to strengthen his fingers. As I heard the story, after a certain period of time he could barely play at all. If this is true I don't know why. Exercising other muscles with weights works, so why not with fingers. Anyway, just something to think about in case the idea might have come to you, or if someone should suggest it, just investigate it first.



XXX -> RE: How to sustain fingers power? (Aug. 19 2010 20:22:53)

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Exercising other muscles with weights works, so why not with fingers.


Because fingers are not muscles. What you can work on is probably your tendons, and general arm muscles, but then again the question is, whether you really need that much strength to press down a string. Watch children play on videos more or less well, and they arent stronger than an adult. If you think you have no power you need to work on coordination and execution. If you have no stamina, you have to make your body get used to the stress by constantly applying stress to it. IMO.



at_leo_87 -> RE: How to sustain fingers power? (Aug. 19 2010 21:27:09)

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Exercising other muscles with weights works, so why not with fingers.


imo, guitar playing deals more with accuracy than strength.

the fastest runner doesn't necessarily mean he can leg press 1000 lbs.

or a fighter who has a deadly punch, doesn't need to have the largest, strongest arms.

they're just trained at what they do.



por medio -> RE: How to sustain fingers power? (Aug. 19 2010 21:42:58)

Yeah it is likely that your technique is holding it for you when you speed up, or you're not employing the right technique to begin with.

Make sure that you're doing/or have come familiar with:

1. planting the fingers when doing arpeggios

2. push the strings into the soundboard when doing arpeggios

3. contract-relax each fingers with doing rasgeos (slowly) to develp strength and practice un-accumulation of tension as you speed up.

4. Practice accurately and slowly. Make sure that the right part of the fingertips or nails and striking the right part of the strings at the right angle (I don't mean 90degrees [:)]) in both rasg and arpeggios. These may be going out the window when you speed up. Remember speeding with wrong technique kills!

Hope it helps. Good luck!



ToddK -> RE: How to sustain fingers power? (Aug. 19 2010 22:39:16)

If you're practicing the right things, in the right way, regularly, then just keep
doing what you're doing, it will pass. Its just an issue of stamina.



HuBaghdadi -> RE: How to sustain fingers power? (Aug. 20 2010 14:38:09)

Thank you all of you guys, I really appreciate every single word.



Chiste de Gales -> RE: How to sustain fingers power? (Aug. 20 2010 17:14:26)

Never never never use weightlifting devices for your fingers



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