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a_arnold -> RE: Cejilla (Jun. 23 2010 12:21:42)

By the way, ngiorgio, the cotton polyester blend is 50/50 and it is 1/8" (3.2mm) in size and comes in 18 yard rolls at $0.49 per yard. I do know that much.




ngiorgio -> RE: Cejilla (Jun. 23 2010 14:29:43)

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By the way, ngiorgio, the cotton polyester blend is 50/50 and it is 1/8" (3.2mm) in size and comes in 18 yard rolls at $0.49 per yard. I do know that much.


Wow. I drill my pegs 1/16th. Do you use a 1/8th hole?

I should be able to find some with that info. Thanks.




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a_arnold -> RE: Cejilla (Jun. 23 2010 19:53:26)

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Wow. I drill my pegs 1/16th. Do you use a 1/8th hole?


No, I drill a smaller hole and compress the cord inside it. The cord is soft and compressible, which is why it doesn't damage the neck, while avoiding that cumbersome leather flap, which was the whole point of not using a nylon guitar string. But it does add some fiddlyness to the process.




ngiorgio -> RE: Cejilla (Jun. 24 2010 0:59:54)

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No, I drill a smaller hole and compress the cord inside it. The cord is soft and compressible, which is why it doesn't damage the neck, while avoiding that cumbersome leather flap, which was the whole point of not using a nylon guitar string. But it does add some fiddlyness to the process.


Thanks for all the info. I will have to give it a try.




marduk -> RE: Cejilla (Nov. 27 2010 3:45:02)

i got my first Cejilla last night, it was easier to put on without going slightly out of tune, but it does actually feel better as well, it seems to lower the action better than the jim dunlop cap did




a_arnold -> RE: Cejilla (Nov. 27 2010 15:50:26)

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it was easier to put on without going slightly out of tune,


Most brands of strings have a slightly thicker G string and a slightly thinner D. This means that when putting on a capo of any sort, the G gets stretched more, and the D less, so they tend to go sharp and flat respectively.

As the strings wear grooves in the capo pad, the D string sometimes begins to buzz.

At that point I sometimes slit the pad and superglue a thin sliver of leather under it only above the D string to insure that the pad compresses that string equally with all the other strings. In this way, you can tweak a capo so it compensates for string thickness and doesn't cause tuning problems. This compensation is, however, is dependent on the brand of string.




marduk -> RE: Cejilla (Nov. 27 2010 16:11:34)

one thing im noticing is that in order to get it to be in tune, i have to put it on rather tight, it seems to be much harder than i would push with my finger if i was "barring" the fret. its going to make grooves really fast by the look of it

works much better than the jim dunlop so far though




Doitsujin -> RE: Cejilla (Nov. 27 2010 23:46:41)

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works much better than the jim dunlop so far though


Details who cares. I use jim dunop capos for 20 year now and have absolutely no problems.




marduk -> RE: Cejilla (Nov. 28 2010 0:29:12)

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Details who cares. I use jim dunop capos for 20 year now and have absolutely no problems.


I care about it, ive got a good ear and i can hear how a jim dunlop capo is often counter productive to the guitars tuning

im sure you have used them enough to know that they can only be adjusted based on where the grooves are. and on some guitars (like mine) that have a very wide neck, the only setting that holds the strings down, is very very tight, and tends to pull the strings a bit out of tune (this is aside to the other issue that a_arnold mentioned)

im aware that some people dont mind playing out of tune though, each to their own




a_arnold -> RE: Cejilla (Nov. 28 2010 20:38:44)

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n order to get it to be in tune, i have to put it on rather tight,


Try putting the edge of the capo as close as possible to the bridge-side fret. That way you won't be pulling the strings down between the frets, which stretches them unnecessarily (the extra stretching exacerbates the tuning issue).

This is only possible with a capo that has a sharp, clean edge (like a cejilla). Capos with a plastic-covered round bar won't let you do this.




a_arnold -> RE: Cejilla (Nov. 28 2010 21:02:28)

By the way, marduk, I assume you have seen the thread on my carved cejillas.

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=62644&mpage=1&p=&tmode=1&smode=1&key=carved%2Ccejillas

These are hand carved (not laser carved). There are photos of many of my designs scattered through the thread.




lsnyman -> RE: Cejilla (Nov. 29 2010 18:03:45)

Very nice cejillas guys.
I would like to try the rubber pad also.What thickness do you recommend and if you would reveal a source that would be kind.
I have also used the kevlar cord and it seems to work well.



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Doitsujin -> RE: Cejilla (Nov. 29 2010 19:50:31)

I like the design of no 6 and the color of no 5.. Oo Nice capos!

By the way I have a question!

Is cejilla a common used word in spanish?
I was at the airport in Madrid and they stopped me coz they wanted to see my dunlop capo. It looked weird to them. I told that it is a capo, a cejilla...but the lady didnt understand till I demonstrated how to use it with the help of my fingers as guitar-neck..




mrMagenta -> RE: Cejilla (Nov. 29 2010 20:03:46)

I like nr 8! Might be unobtrusive enough to rival my planetwaves capo, which is the best one I've use yet. How much are you asking for it? :-)




lsnyman -> RE: Cejilla (Nov. 29 2010 21:08:36)

Thanks
#8 is $38 to members.




Andy Culpepper -> RE: Cejilla (Nov. 29 2010 21:16:57)

Nice work, I love #10

I'm a sucker for a tasteful bit of MOP on a guitar, like on the tieblock.

Doit, somebody told me that cejilla means "eyebrow" in Spanish.




mezzo -> RE: Cejilla (Nov. 29 2010 22:30:32)

n°2 is nice, reminds me of an Aztec temple.




marduk -> RE: Cejilla (Nov. 30 2010 2:55:48)

thanks a_arnold going closer to the nut helps a bit :)




silddx -> RE: Cejilla (Jun. 13 2012 21:18:21)

I just received my ebony trad cejilla from Nick (ngiorgio).

It looks lovely, works wonderfully and is beautifully made. Also, even for a first time user like me, dead easy to use. I don't know what the fuss it about, I had formed the impression from reading that they can be tricky to use :S

Anyway, I'm delighted :D

Thanks Nick.




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