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estebanana -> RE: What IS the purpose of a flamenca negra? (May 31 2010 22:47:02)

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But I think it is a worthwhile exercise looking at things from different angles. Even if it may prove to be wrong, it can help show other things.


I like that because it shows lack of fear, and imagination.




jshelton5040 -> RE: What IS the purpose of a flamenca negra? (Jun. 1 2010 7:54:29)

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ORIGINAL: deteresa1

jshelton, weren't you the one earlier who was disparaging Canadian Cypress as back/side wood because of its "junk" taptone?? Well I guess you can use it anyway now that it won't matter [:D]

Actually I said that the Alaskan Yellow Cedar that I have is junk and I wouldn't use it. I have built guitars with it but it was many years ago and only because I didn't have any cured cypress or knowledge of other alternatives at the time. I still don't consider it a tone wood but if someone would send me a set that is nice and stiff with a good tap tone I'm perfectly willing to stand corrected[;)]. Currently I would prefer a whole range of woods which are readily available to AYC.




a_arnold -> RE: What IS the purpose of a flamenca negra? (Jun. 1 2010 14:17:29)

What is the purpose of a flamenca blanca?

(a rhetorical question, BTW. I expect someone is sure to miss the point . . .)




gj Michelob -> RE: What IS the purpose of a flamenca negra? (Jun. 1 2010 16:07:14)

What is the purpose of a Flamenca Negra?:

A. To induce those who already have a flamenco guitar (Blanca) to buy a second guitar;
B. To induce us to allocate our financial resources to buy two medium priced flamenco guitars (Blanca y Negra)
so that we can then save to buy an expensive third guitar;
C. To stir a debate about the purpose of a Flamenco Negra;
D. To coordinate when wearing brown shoes;
E. To save Cypress from extinction;
F. To allow luthiers an excuse to charge more;
G. To also stiff flamenco players –not just classical- with the dearly paid legend of Brazilian Rosewood;
H. To foster the philosophical dichotomy of matter and spirit;
I. To allow us an excuse that “it would sound so much better if I had a Negra”;
J. To legitimize Paco de Lucia’s mistake;
K. To sort out the problem of Cypress pungent smell, or players’ allergic reactions to it;
L. To challenge our audible range;
M. To have us stare at two guitars instead of playing one.




Alonte -> RE: What IS the purpose of a flamenca negra? (Jun. 1 2010 16:15:36)

Wow! Great thoughts GJ! If you posted these points earlier we wouldnt have all these messy 4 page thread of whatever.




cathulu -> RE: What IS the purpose of a flamenca negra? (Jun. 1 2010 19:51:09)

Here here! I concur, GJ makes the most sense!

Thanks Estebanana, I take that as a very kind compliment. If I misinterpret, please don't spoil it for me. :)




tommyV -> RE: What IS the purpose of a flamenca negra? (Jun. 14 2010 8:59:30)

I guess Negra has more volume and strenght...




keith -> RE: What IS the purpose of a flamenca negra? (Jun. 14 2010 14:46:27)

maybe a negra was introduced so we would not get bored with a blanca and drift to playing a vuvuzela. if so, the inventor should be given sainthood. any luthier thinking about making a wood vuvuzela should be shot on sight.

for those who do not know what is a vuvuzela--watch a world cup soccer match this week and that swarm of bees you hear is 1000's of vuvuzela being "played".

seriously, i think a negra has a legit place in flamenco as a guitar that that can add a lot to the music and still be flamenco. although i may be a blanca man there are plenty of negra's out there i would not mind having. sanlucar's negra ramirez would be one of them.




estebanana -> RE: What IS the purpose of a flamenca negra? (Jun. 14 2010 19:11:00)

The real question is what is the difference between a Vuvu made of African Black wood and a Vuvu made of Mexican Cypress?

Is a blacna vuvu more better for futbol than a negra vuvu?




keith -> RE: What IS the purpose of a flamenca negra? (Jun. 14 2010 22:19:28)

a negra vuvu having a longer sustain that a blanca would be good for a solo performance whereas a blanca would be good or a group performance. either way, the player, in a just world, would be shot before they could put their lips onto their vuvu.




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