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edguerin -> Miguel Angel Cortes (May 7 2010 9:23:41)

Last night I went to a venue in Luxembourg with Miguel Ángel Cortés, accompanied by José CARRASCO and Raquel ENAMORADO and Macarena DE LA TORRE (Cante and Palmas, and yes, I had the impression the two cantaoras were accompanying Miguel ...).
It was fantastic!
What I really liked about "Bordon de trapo" was that his toque was modern without being "way out" or "jazzyish". You could alway hear the traditional origins.
I came home around 1 in the morning in an ambivalent state of mind: on the one side elated and feeling I just would like to grab my guitar and play for the rest of the night (or rather morning); on the other hand a bit blue, 'cause I'll never ever reach that level of playing ...

Just wanted to share.




Kate -> RE: Miguel Angel Cortes (May 7 2010 10:29:08)

Sounds great. Miguel Angel is playing in Granada this month, as part of the Flamenco Viene del Sur concerts. Not sure I can make it and is probably sold out already but reading your post makes me think I should really try and get there if I can.




Anders Eliasson -> RE: Miguel Angel Cortes (May 8 2010 0:21:29)

Sounds like a nice show.
I´ve seen MA Cortés a couple of times and I like him a lot. He´s a very dynamic player, and I agree with what you say about being modern with a good traditional background.

He´s teaching here in Huelva (In Archangels academy) so maybe after summer.....




NormanKliman -> RE: Miguel Angel Cortes (May 8 2010 1:55:55)

I heard him several times a few years ago and I always liked what he did (accompaniment and solo). Seems to rub the narrow-minded the wrong way, though, I don't know why. He's got an older brother who plays, and that always helps.

About the meaning of "Bordón de trapo":

"Trapo" can mean sail, as in a boat, or a bullfighter's cape. "Lengua de trapo" is when someone's pronunciation is weak and confusing, like a small child or a drunk, and apparently it means insolent and foul-mouthed in Cuba and Uruguay. So there are a number of possible meanings there, but it sounds like some kind of inside joke, maybe just for his own amusement. By an even longer stretch of the imagination, one of the meanings of "bordón" is snare, as in a snare drum, and in English "traps" means the percussion instruments of a jazz or dance band. Let us know if you find out.




Ricardo -> RE: Miguel Angel Cortes (May 8 2010 10:24:05)

coincidentally I dusted off an old solo guitar album of his that was very nice. Patriarca it is called, got it in the car now. I remember seeing him accompany a couple singers in lebrija a few years ago and was surprised he played about 70% falsetas and cositas of Gerardo Nuñez. In fact they were all things that he teaches in his curso, and it actually made me wonder if he actually took the class many years ago when it first started. His own compositions had a lot of Nuñez influence as well. I think he and his brother are most famous for touring with Carmen Linares for years. We hung out with him in Sanlucar 3 years ago after the concert of Merce, Arcangel (Miguel accopanied him) and Manolo Sanlucar. Awesome night for sure!

Ricardo




mark indigo -> RE: Miguel Angel Cortes (May 10 2010 12:30:14)

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About the meaning of "Bordón de trapo":


i actually have no idea, but my guess was that it was a reference to alternate tuning with the bass string tuned down to B or something and flapping like a piece of cloth....!




Doitsujin -> RE: Miguel Angel Cortes (May 10 2010 13:35:25)

I saw Pastora Galvan last saturday on the same stage as eudgein Miguel A. Cortes. She was acompined by one of the Campallo brothers. Both+singers = awesome! Great performance. Only one big minus point for this evening.

The happening happened at the ass of the world (literally !!) and the group was introduced by a scary red haired french speaking old broom..eh lady. And an old clouded guy. And as we all know..french speaking people love to listen to their own voices. They talked **** and thanked 1000 people and god and the world for whatever minor things.... than stopped, started again babbeling...... I fall asleep 5 times wake up and they still were talking. It was 30mins without exaggerating. MAN! That sucked BALLS! I wanted to jump up and shout SHUT UP LOVELY LADY! But I was too polite... Horrible situation. (Sorry french speaking people, I liked all the rest of you I met in the wonderful old city Luxembourg and talked with, just not the time wasting witch before the show.)




Güiro -> RE: Miguel Angel Cortes (May 10 2010 17:01:17)

He definitely puts on a great show. I was glad I was able to study with him. Can't wait for La Guitarra Flamenca de Miguel Angel Cortes which should be available soon.




edguerin -> RE: Miguel Angel Cortes (May 11 2010 22:23:59)

Doit: too bad we didn't meet. But do I hear prejudice toward French speakers?[&:]
The red-head held her speach on Thursday as well. I believe she's from the Circulo Cultural Español "Antonio Machado" who organized the festival. Judging by her accent, the lady is a Spaniard, and they like flowery speaches even more than the French.[:D]




Pimientito -> RE: Miguel Angel Cortes (May 11 2010 23:48:13)

That happens a lot. I've lost count of the times that the president of a Peña will introduce someone and drone on for hours and hours. I particularly remember a concert of Enrique Morente in Almuñecar where the guy spent 5 minutes telling everyone how honoured and lucky we were to have the next artist with us, thanked everyone he had ever met, spent 15 minute telling us Enriques life story from the days he sang in the cathedral choir at Granada, then equated Enrique to some kind of demi god " brother of the moon, cousin of the stars" and a thousand other things before finally allowing the group to get started.

The most memorable awful introduction for me was a speech made by the Peña president in Trebujena for Gerardo Nuñez who started his speech along the lines of "the last time Gerardo played here noone knew what he was doing, noone enjoyed the show and we all thought he was hopeless. Tonight we hope he will perform a bit better....."
this carried on for 5 minutes before Gerardo walked on stage and started playing while the guy was still speaking thus forcing him to cut his speech short and leave the stage.




edguerin -> RE: Miguel Angel Cortes (May 15 2010 22:40:47)

M.A.C. answered my e-mail request yesterday, stating "Bordón de Trapo doesn't mean anything, I just liked it as a title for the CD"


BTW, his live performance in Luxembourg had a much more trad. aire than the CD from 2006 (with other accompanying artists of course)




Anders Eliasson -> RE: Miguel Angel Cortes (May 16 2010 0:45:48)

Just a follow up on Spanish (Andalucian) words
Bordón in the guitar world means bass strings. Dame un juego de bordones means: give me a set of bass strings.
Trapo means a lot of things, but is mostly used as a piece of cloth that you use for some kind of cleaning. (your hands in the kitchen, your car, whatever)

So I´m glad MAC answered what he did, because it didnt make sense in my ears.




dpalfstad -> RE: Miguel Angel Cortes (May 16 2010 7:27:57)

Ricardo--
Reading your post was kind of surprising to me because I feel like I am rather new to Flamenco. Ever since I "discovered" Flamenco about 1 & 1/2 years ago I have voraciously tried to listen to everything that I can get my hands on. I have purchased 4 Gerardo Nuñez albums and, while I find him to be an incredible guitarist technically, his recordings don't move me like many others. (By the way, your cd, Madera Sonora, is one of my very favorite, most passionate, albums.)

Anyway, after seeing this discussion thread started, I purchased two M.A. Cortés cds--Patriarca and Bordón de Trapo. I have listened to them now and, coincidentally, I thought that they reminded me very much of Gerardo Nuñez. The playing was technically pristine, great tone, and really good songs. But, it just didn't move me the way some others do. I was rather disappointed in the recordings, but that's the way it goes sometimes. I was surprised to see your post connecting M.A. Cortés with Nuñez because I don't consider myself to be an aficionado and I certainly don't know the Flamencos histories as well as you and some other folks on here do, but at least it validated my prior thoughts about these albums.

Dave A.

P.S. Every time I listen to your cd I feel like I want to write to you and tell you how much I enjoy it! I'll take this opportunity, once again, to do just that. I hope that you have another one in the works soon. Thanks for making such GREAT music!




edguerin -> RE: Miguel Angel Cortes (May 16 2010 7:50:20)

I have the same feelings towards Gerardo Nuñez and I agree that MACs CD sounds a lot like him. But the live performance was something totally different! His siguiriyas almost moved me to tears.




dpalfstad -> RE: Miguel Angel Cortes (May 16 2010 8:09:05)

Yes, I watched a couple videos of MAC on youtube and I much prefer the live performances to the CDs. Maybe it's just that some people have a hard time capturing the passion and feeling in the studio. I know firsthand how difficult this can be; both from the producer/engineer's side and the performer's side.

Dave A.




henrym3483 -> RE: Miguel Angel Cortes (May 29 2010 5:40:43)

for those interested they have now put up some same vids looks good

https://www.flamenco-world.com/videos_productos/ma_cortes.htm




Doitsujin -> RE: Miguel Angel Cortes (May 29 2010 19:14:11)

The stuff in the videos is 100% exactly the same stuff he teached me in a workshop around a decade ago. I guess the rest he teached ages ago and I already know, too is also included. :./




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HolyEvil -> RE: Miguel Angel Cortes (May 31 2010 7:47:05)

anyone knows how long this dvd goes for?

other than flamenco world.. which other sites sells it..

cheers




avimuno -> RE: Miguel Angel Cortes (Jun. 3 2010 20:33:02)

Hi everyone!
I received the new Encuentro 'La Guitarra Flamenca de Miguel Angel Cortes' 4 days ago. I paid EUR 69.99 on flamenco-world.com (the Euro being weak, it turned out to be a pretty good deal compared to my previous purchases of the Encuentro series).
I really like MAC so I jumped on the book/DVD.... and after having watched it 5 times a day for the past 4 days, I must admit that I love it.
Although it's not divided as such, the DVD contains a first part which is more focussed on showing different sections of Solea, Tangos and Buleria (each in different keys). MAC demonstrates falsetas, 'pasages' and llamadas. The second part is focussed on his solo pieces and you pretty much get all of 'Bordon de Trapo' trasncribed.
All in all it's a great DVD which might however appeal more to fans of MAC who wish to learn his falsetas and his solo pieces.
Highly recommended if like me, you are such a person.
Saludos!




avimuno -> RE: Miguel Angel Cortes (Jun. 3 2010 20:39:17)

And yes... that Pedro de Miguel negra sounds amazing!!! I want one so bad! lol
And the DVD is divided in two parts... my bad [:)]




Elie -> RE: Miguel Angel Cortes (Jun. 3 2010 20:59:49)

thank you for the review [:D]
how do you evaluate it comparing to NÚÑEZ's or Tomatito's dvds ?




avimuno -> RE: Miguel Angel Cortes (Jun. 3 2010 22:22:37)

IMHO I wouldn't compare it to the Nunez or Tomatito ones (or any other Encuentro ones for that matter... each has its own specificities).
The Nunez is also divided in two, the first part being pure technique (which I find very valuable as a beginner - it has helped my technique a lot) and the second his solo pieces.
The Tomatito one is only falsetas and solo pieces.

The MAC one is not very explicit in the sense that he does not carefully explain the different sections por baile or cante (like Merengue de Cordoba does on his DVD)... he simply plays them and he leaves it to us to figure it out. But it's all there, so a little knowledge of the different sections will get you a long way with that DVD. For example he demonstrates some seriously cool compas chops... like the 'pasages' sections por tangos where he shows some unusual rasgeados. He also shows some different llamadas por cante (like the Granaina for example). And of course you get some really cool falsetas in different keys of Solea, Tangos and Bulerias. I guess that players who would wish to expand their 'vocabulary' and who feel a bit limited by the usual keys of those palos would welcome this.
The second part is great because you get all the beautiful pieces from 'Bordon de Trapo' transcribed (the Bulerias, the Tangos, the Tanguillo, the Alegrias, the 'Guajira' and the Seguiriya are all there).

All in all I wouldn't say that it has an amazing instructional value but what you get is an insight into MAC's style and the way he approaches compas and composition (which is pretty much the same with all the other DVDs from Encuentro, except maybe the Merengue de Cordoba ones which are specifically designed to introduce beginners to the different palos of flamenco). Again, having a good knowledge of flamenco will really take you a long way with this DVD.

Hope this helps.

Saludos!




Elie -> RE: Miguel Angel Cortes (Jun. 3 2010 22:29:44)

[:D]Thank you so much[:D]




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