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Guest -> quick question (Dec. 1 2004 0:16:46)

does anyone know the name of the artitst who sings behind moraito during the first buleria in saura's "flamenco"?



Jim Opfer -> RE: quick question (Dec. 1 2004 18:11:11)

Thanks for that, made me put it back on again.

Just as the fella with the double breasted suit gets up to dance?

Barullo.


Jim.



Guest -> RE: quick question (Dec. 2 2004 19:29:07)

jim, its the guy with the full beard right?? have you heard the cd he has out with moraito on guitar?? also, has anyone heard potito's album with paco and vicente?

seangregory20(sorry i didnt sign in)



Jim Opfer -> RE: quick question (Dec. 6 2004 22:41:21)

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jim, its the guy with the full beard right?? have you heard the cd he has out with moraito on guitar?? also, has anyone heard potito's album with paco and vicente?


Sean, No, I haven't heard the cd with Moraito, looking forward though.
Yes, Potito's album 'El ultimo cantaor' is great stuff but I prefer Duquende.

Jim.



Jamey -> RE: quick question (Dec. 6 2004 22:51:48)

The guy with the full beard is "El Torta". He looks a lot different now. He's from Jerez and he's Manuel Moneo's brother (who appears with Agujeta later in the film). His real name is Juan Moneo. Do a search for him on flamenco-world.com and you'll find his albums.

He is truly one of the greats but his troubled past has kept him out of the spotlight and has limited his notoriety mainly to flamenco aficionados within Andalucia. It's been rumored that Camaron was a fan of his.



Guest -> RE: quick question (Dec. 7 2004 1:55:03)

jamey, are you sure its el torta!? i have one of his albums and he looks so different in the video. jim said he thinks its barullo.

sean



Paleto -> RE: quick question (Dec. 7 2004 4:52:52)

The recording he did with Paco and Vicente I think is Andando por los caminos, a bunch of others appear too, Moraito, Manolo Franco, Tomatito and more.

I really like the bulerias and alegrias on that one, the tanguillo has some nice things too.

His voice sounds like a 13 year old.

A good cd.

Anthony



TANúñez -> RE: quick question (Dec. 7 2004 13:10:37)

"are you sure its el torta!?"

Yep, it's El Torta.



Jamey -> RE: quick question (Dec. 7 2004 15:18:46)

I absolutely guaranty that the fellow in Carlos Saura's Flamenco that is sitting immediately behind Moraito, that has long shaggy hair and a large unkept beard is none other than Juan "El Torta" Moneo. El Barullo is the slightly taller and younger fellow with shorter and darker hair, who sings third in that buleria. I think his name is also Manuel Moneo and possibly the son of the older Manuel Moneo that appears with Agujetas which would make El Barullo (Manuel Moneo hijo) El Torta's nephew (I think).
El Torta now looks a lot more like his brother Manuel Moneo (who is gravely ill these days).

So yes, the bearded guy is El Torta and not El Barullo, I am certain of this.


El Torta at Flamenco-world.com

Check out the cover of his earlier album Colores Morenos as this was around the same time as Flamenco. As you'll notice, he looks a lot different now.

I just found this link, this should also help clear things up a bit.
link on the Moneo family



Guest -> RE: quick question (Dec. 7 2004 23:42:26)

All right, thanks Jamey. I can see what your saying. Those web pages were helpful.

-sean



Jim Opfer -> RE: quick question (Dec. 8 2004 16:43:06)

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El Barullo is the slightly taller and younger fellow with shorter and darker hair, who sings third in that buleria


I thought that was the original question, the fella behind Moraito who sings?
According to the sleve notes with the video, it's El Barullo? The other guy is to one side.

Jim.



Jamey -> RE: quick question (Dec. 8 2004 19:55:57)

No Jim, Sean was looking for the bearded guy standing behind Moraito in the first buleria.
I think he also sings a track on Moraito's Morao y Oro. Apparently Moraito was the one who helped him get himself cleaned up and sober, undoubtedly they are close friends.



Jim Opfer -> RE: quick question (Dec. 8 2004 22:32:35)

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No Jim, Sean was looking for the bearded guy standing behind Moraito in the first buleria.


Thanks Jamey.



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